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Re: When to neuter? (ouch!)
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#9253 - 05/07/2002 05:36 AM |
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Different does not mean bad by default. I had my wisdom teeth removed. Given, they don't produce hormones but they are part of an even more vital system .
Messing with the endrocrine system means along with messing with the testicles you mess with the adrenal gland and thyroid. You can live a normal life without teeth (dentures, even some dogs have theses.) but you can not live a normal life with a messed up endrocrine system. People do not realize how much these hormones effect there life. As far as overweight as an indicator of health for americans its just plain wrong. Those tables were created by the insurance companies to create life insurance policies. The best way to indicate health is a body fat test, because some heavy people are not fat. Besides if Americans are so unheathly how come we live longer then in the past?
Back to dogs. I just cant believe removing tesostrene from the system is healthy. If you want to provent unwanted litters have the puppies get a vascetemy (spelling?). There is such a thing for dogs.
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Re: When to neuter? (ouch!)
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#9254 - 05/07/2002 02:07 PM |
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Originally posted by Barbara:
The fact of the matter is..a neutered dog cannot contract or develop protrate cancer cause it just ain't there anymore
. Not true at all. The prostate is not removed and the dog can get cancer of the prostate after being neutered.
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Re: When to neuter? (ouch!)
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#9255 - 05/07/2002 02:31 PM |
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well, it sounds like as long as the nuts are hanging , health wise it does not appear to be any significant reasons to neuter.
in regards to eliminating unwanted litters.. well, i dont think there are too many, if any, dog owners on this bb that it would be an issue for. so we could probably save those comments for your irresponsible neighbors. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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Re: When to neuter? (ouch!)
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#9256 - 05/07/2002 03:16 PM |
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I suppose it really comes down to the fact that if you are not going to breed your dog (leave it to the experts) then why not neuter?
Are you trying to make a statement by owning a dog (who in all reality is primarily a pet regardless of the fact if he is involved in any sport) with all of his parts?
I know most members of this board are responsible dog owners, but really, what's wrong with neutering? You are removing a part the dog will not use. Just as many dog owners have dewclaws removed, tails docked and ears cropped.
It is not that I am totally in agreement with neutering. Just stating the facts. Whenever I get a new dog I too will be having a hard time deciding whether or not to neuter. There are many pros and cons to the procedure. The last time I just trotted my dog to the vet's without question to have it done. I won't be so quick to make a decision in the future, but I still think I'm more pro than against.
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#9257 - 05/07/2002 03:22 PM |
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to me it has nothing to do if the nuts are in the bag or not. who the hell cares. i actually would prefer if the dog didnt have a huge swinging hanging bag whacking off the side of his legs. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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to me its more a question of the risk of the procedure. does the risk outweigh any benefits?? :rolleyes:
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#9258 - 05/07/2002 03:33 PM |
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DOBE, there are always risks to any procedure, even minor ones. The percentages weigh heavily in the favour of a successful procedure though.
But I guess if you're that 1 in a million whose dog dies on the table it doesn't mean very much.
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#9259 - 05/07/2002 03:36 PM |
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Dobe,
If you want to do any kind of protection work, you must not nuetor your dog. If your worried about dominance, don't be. Since your raising the little guy from a puppy he will look to you as pack leader if you are doing obidience training.
Robert
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Re: When to neuter? (ouch!)
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#9260 - 05/07/2002 03:46 PM |
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just havent heard any solid evidence supporting neutering. :rolleyes:
yes, protection work is on my agenda, have also heard mixed reviews concerning this as well. some say they have not experienced any differences but i think the consensus is that it will .... so you got to go with the majority on this one i think.
good thing vince aint around, he normally closes topics after 20 or so replys.... ahahahahahah <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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Robert,
A neutered male or female can still be trained for protection, just like an unaltered dog. It really comes down to a personal preference on a dog that isn't intended for breeding.
Testosterone has been found to encourage the growth rate in prostate tumors. In many cases the testicles are removed when the man has prostate surgery. It is becoming less common, but it is still done.
The only medically required reasons for neutering a male would be testicular cancer and a retained testicle. Other than that it really comes down to a personal preference.
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#9262 - 05/07/2002 03:52 PM |
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Originally posted by wismz:
If you want to do any kind of protection work, you must not nuetor your dog. If your worried about dominance, don't be. Does this dog think with his testicles? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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