Connie Sutherland wrote 10/25/2006 12:13 PM Re: First Attempt at RAW [Re: Trevor Lears ] #115850 - 10/25/2006 12:13 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: ..... once again he brought it into our bedroom and crunched it down on the carpet. I don't really want raw meat on the carpet in the bedroom or anywhere else in the house, but it's difficult because in the morning I'm busy getting ready for work which makes it hard to monitor his eating. I don't really want food of any kind on the carpet either. The only dog who hasn't yet been well-trained enough to keep the food on the mat where his dish is (which takes some repetition) gets a small x-pen plopped down around him and his dish. They eat fast. <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> I just pick it up when he's done.
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Trevor Lears wrote 10/25/2006 01:18 PM Re: First Attempt at RAW [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #115851 - 10/25/2006 01:18 PM
Trevor Lears Webboard User Reg: 03-30-2006 Posts: 55 Loc: Gilbert, AZ Offline	What's an "x-pen"? You need to sit back in your garden, sip a whiskey, smoke a cigar and THINK about your dog training.
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Trevor Lears wrote 10/25/2006 01:23 PM Re: First Attempt at RAW [Re: Trevor Lears ] #115852 - 10/25/2006 01:23 PM
Trevor Lears Webboard User Reg: 03-30-2006 Posts: 55 Loc: Gilbert, AZ Offline	Also, I was wondering if it's better to feed once or twice a day? You need to sit back in your garden, sip a whiskey, smoke a cigar and THINK about your dog training.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/25/2006 01:24 PM Re: First Attempt at RAW [Re: Trevor Lears ] #115853 - 10/25/2006 01:24 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: What's an "x-pen"? It's a collapsible (or foldable) exercise pen. The ones for smaller dogs are the ones I meant in this case; I have one for inside the house as a temporary "stay in that spot" thing for a dog who doesn't yet know "place" or who, as we were discussing, still drags pieces of food off to a more comfortable and private munching location on a carpet. <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/25/2006 01:29 PM Re: First Attempt at RAW [Re: Trevor Lears ] #115854 - 10/25/2006 01:29 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Also, I was wondering if it's better to feed once or twice a day? IMO, twice. Deep-chested bloat-vulnerable dogs, twice. Small dogs, twice. Others, up to you. That's just my own take. I read up before making that decision, though. If I had a non-bloat-vulnerable larger dog, I might rethink it, since dogs on their own in the wild would gorge and fast and probably not set their clocks for breakfast and dinner service.
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alice oliver wrote 10/25/2006 01:42 PM Re: First Attempt at RAW [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #115855 - 10/25/2006 01:42 PM
alice oliver Webboard User Reg: 09-14-2005 Posts: 843 Loc: Offline	Quote: She rinsed it off and put it back in his bowl. A few minutes latter he had it on the living room carpet and just started crunching away! aha! she rinsed it off! i strongly suspect the dog was objecting to the brine they soak the chickens in. if he hesitates again, try rinsing the meat really well and see if it makes it more palatable to him. also, why don't you people feed your dogs outside? i would never let my dog chomp down on RMBs in the house. yeech! i have no interest in cleaning up after that. ben gets fed outside even when it is 25 below zero out and he is just fine with it. working Mastiff
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/25/2006 01:46 PM Re: First Attempt at RAW [Re: alice oliver ] #115856 - 10/25/2006 01:46 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: .....aha! she rinsed it off! .... i strongly suspect the dog was objecting to the brine they soak the chickens in. if he hesitates again, try rinsing the meat really well and see if it makes it more palatable to him. ........ Oh, right, I forgot that! Excellent point! (Or even try a different source, since that brine is a big sodium thing.)
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/25/2006 01:54 PM Re: First Attempt at RAW [Re: alice oliver ] #115857 - 10/25/2006 01:54 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: ............ also, why don't you people feed your dogs outside? I was waiting for that one. <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> The lucky folks who can feed outside and not worry about open gates, etc., have my envy. I have a neighbor who feeds the dogs on part of her porch, which is perfect. She even has a gate setup so the whole porch isn't food-anointed (although I wouldn't care that much about the porch). But people whose dogs might not be safe alone outside might not want to spend their dogs' mealtimes outdoors with them in snow, rain, and sleet. And there are lots of dog owners with more than one whose feeding time is policed so each dog gets only his own food and there are no food wars or just plain thievery. It would be nice, though! <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
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Trevor Lears wrote 10/25/2006 02:03 PM Re: First Attempt at RAW [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #115858 - 10/25/2006 02:03 PM
Trevor Lears Webboard User Reg: 03-30-2006 Posts: 55 Loc: Gilbert, AZ Offline	I didn't rinse off the wing I gave him this morning and he chompped it up just like last night. I fed him his kibble outside on the patio once and it became infested with ants within minutes! Maybe the ants won't care so much for the raw stuff though. I'll either feed him in his kennel or watch him to make sure he stays on the kitchen floor with his raw bone. You need to sit back in your garden, sip a whiskey, smoke a cigar and THINK about your dog training.
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Trevor Lears wrote 11/06/2006 03:50 PM Re: First Attempt at RAW [Re: Trevor Lears ] #115859 - 11/06/2006 03:50 PM
Trevor Lears Webboard User Reg: 03-30-2006 Posts: 55 Loc: Gilbert, AZ Offline	Just wanted to thank everyone for their help with starting my dog out on raw. My dog has been loving his meals. Now it's just a matter of getting into the groove of things, finding the best deals on different kinds of meat and balancing everything the right way. I've been using Ed's 7 day sample menu as a rough guide for what and how much I should feed my dog. Ed's menu is for a 90 lb male and my dog is 45 lbs, so it was simple enough to just cut all his measurments in half. Does anyone know where I could find any other menu ideas or samples? You need to sit back in your garden, sip a whiskey, smoke a cigar and THINK about your dog training.
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