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[Re: Jennifer Lee ]
#248920 - 08/02/2009 08:14 PM |
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Sounds like tracking may be just the mental workout for Loki to relax and de-stress!!! 
Just wanted to add -- you may also want to try baiting the track with more food at first -- so the track is more rewarding to him too.
I hope you're onto something that both of you will enjoy!
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beginner FST
[Re: Katie O'Connor ]
#249008 - 08/03/2009 08:51 PM |
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Two things...
Firstly should this be renamed and possibly moved since it has turned into a tracking discussion, that way people can find it??
And secondly, what is the best way to go about slowing the dog down when first learning?
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[Re: Jennifer Lee ]
#249010 - 08/03/2009 09:18 PM |
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I'll let a Mod decide on moving/renaming the thread.
As for slowing the dog down -- baiting the track more and/or making sure the bait isn't visible by burying it somewhat in the vegetation should slow a dog down.
Do you think Loki is confused as in not sure what you're asking or hectic as in OMG where's the next piece of food? It's hard to say what you're seeing or interpreting without seeing it myself. I'd probably give him a few more times on the track and give him the benefit of the doubt that he just needs time to figure it all out before I start suggesting changes.
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[Re: Katie O'Connor ]
#249011 - 08/03/2009 09:23 PM |
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It was actually Yote who tried to charge through it, He charged right through inhaling the treats. I was wondering if using bigger footsteps and smaller treats might naturally slow him down.
Loki is doing very well actually, he seems to really understand the concept which is really cool to watch.
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Re: beginner FST
[Re: Jennifer Lee ]
#249013 - 08/03/2009 09:31 PM |
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Yote might be better off introducing to scent pads first.
Just to get the concept that the reward is from the concentrated scent and crushed vegetation -- not movement yet as that can be rewarding in of itself to the dog.
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Re: beginner FST
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#249016 - 08/03/2009 10:47 PM |
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How long are you aging the tracks?
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Re: beginner FST
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#249017 - 08/03/2009 10:59 PM |
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so, i was just told off by someone who was training for sch with their pup for really only a few months that even if i used a harness on my small dog, i still HAD to run the leash underneath the dog, bending over close to him,or it would be impossible to get him to do a "proper" article indication....not that we are anywhere even close to that point. thoughts???
on another note, i am really pleased with tripper and his tracking, im glad this thread got started, and that i found it, i had been interested in it for quite some time now, but was hesitant to start.
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Re: beginner FST
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#249025 - 08/04/2009 07:58 AM |
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How long are you aging the tracks?
I know this wasn't directed to me, but I have a question:
I've done a circular track twice with Chula, and I think she's done very well in searching out every step thoroughly, and getting herself back on the track when she's off it.
But I haven't really aged the track first. How long do you recommend, and what is the purpose of aging the scent?
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Re: beginner FST
[Re: Mallory Kwiatkowski ]
#249027 - 08/04/2009 08:28 AM |
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so, i was just told off by someone who was training for sch with their pup for really only a few months that even if i used a harness on my small dog, i still HAD to run the leash underneath the dog, bending over close to him,or it would be impossible to get him to do a "proper" article indication....not that we are anywhere even close to that point. thoughts???
As you progress in the foundation training, yes, I would recommend threading the leash under the dog when you begin to link scent pads and do short tracks. The "bending over close to the dog" seems to me that it would add an element of pressure to the dog on the track -- it's not something I would do, but that's just me.
Article indication I shaped off the track before introducing them on the track -- and well after I felt Ellie had attained a solid level of tracking ability and experience.
But I haven't really aged the track first. How long do you recommend, and what is the purpose of aging the scent?
At first I'd recommend aging the track anywhere from 15-30 minutes. My understanding is that's to allow your scent that's shed to settle on the ground and the scent of the crushed vegetation in your footsteps to be released.
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Re: beginner FST
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#249032 - 08/04/2009 09:54 AM |
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I think I probably aged it about 15 minutes for Yote.
I laid it with him watching then took him on a short walk so he would be a little more relaxed.
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