I gave the breeder a check.

The female mom lives on the property. The place in the video is a on site kennel. it's pretty nice actually. My pup is in his own very large kennel space with a outdoor run.


ALL of his dogs seemed very healthy

 Quote: Melissa Thom

Isn't buyer's remorse in Illinois 3 days? I would call up and chat with your breeder and tell him about your concerns. He will either be able to supply the paperwork or he won't.

And possibly if the 3rd day falls on a weekend that may give you another day, as it may be stated as 3 business days or imply that. I don't know. g

If they can't produce the OFA papers & you can't verify them (OFA will have them on their site if you have all the info on the dog like AKC reg# DOB etc)

If you really want to get tuff & have already given the breeder $$$$s, you can always threaten to take them thru the small claims court system for fraud if you find that the dogs are not OFA'd. Don't think that they would be happy to have that done. Or even speak to the newspaper they will often help arbitrate a dispute. Just some thoughts. If they know that you mean business, they may be more inclined to refund you.

You can stop payment on the ck.

John, I sincerely wish you the best of luck with this puppy. He is very cute and it sounds like your family is all on board with this and he will be much-loved. Is Gambit part of his registered name? Is that what you will call him?

Would that we all had a crystal ball and knew exactly how our dogs were going to turn out --- nah, it's probably better that we don't.

Here is the contract:

BUYER AGREES TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS OF SALE:

Every effort has been made to ensure that the puppy you've selected is healthy at the time of purchase. To keep the guarantee offered to you in force, you must have your puppy examined by a licensed Veterinarian of your choice NO LATER THAN 5 BUSINESS DAYS from the date you receive your puppy. During the initial exam should your veterinarian find the puppy to be a poor health risk or detect any physical health issues that would require further veterinary care other than required immunizations and/or treatment for any type of parasite or bacteria whether internal or external YOU MUST CONTACT US WITHIN 48 HOURS. A diagnosis of Coccidiosis, Giardia, parasites or any other bacterial infection does not render your puppy unhealthy. This guarantee does not cover the above mentioned conditions. No veterinarian fees charged for the initial exam or any other veterinary services will be paid by the seller! If you neglect to take your puppy to a veterinarian for this initial examination, you will accept immediate and full responsibility for its health and this guarantee will be voided! In accordance with the above, we also guarantee your puppy for a full (7) seven days from the date of possession against Parvovirus, Distemper, and Hepatitis. In the event your puppy does not pass the initial exam or contracts any of the aforementioned, YOU MUST NOTIFY US IMMEDIATELY! The puppy and\all related materials must be returned to the seller accompanied by a legible written and signed veterinary report, a complete history, lab report(s) and or pathology report from a licensed lab. If your puppy is diagnosed with Parvovirus, and IGG and IGM Blood Antibody Titer Test must be done with results furnished to the seller. Should your puppy die from either Parvovirus or Distemper, we will replace your puppy with the first available puppy of the same breed and sex, however NO PART OF THE PURCHASE PRICE WILL BE REFUNDED! In addition, your puppy may be returned should he/she develop a life threatening congential defect. At no time will the puppy be replaced without said puppy being returned to the seller. The seller does not guarantee against hypoglycemia, as this condition depends solely on the care and diet given to your puppy after leaving the sellers possession. If your puppy should die from hypoglycemia, THIS HEALTH GUARANTEE IS VOID AND NO COMPENSATION WILL BE GIVEN. The seller will accept return of the puppy/dog, but not for exchanges for any reason including allergies, tenant/landlord disputes, puppy given as a gift or any other reason not related to the health of the puppy under terms mentioned above. There is no guarantee of the ability of the puppy to breed, show quality, size, temperament, adaptability or descending testicles. If choosing to work yor Malinois we will however back the working ability of the dog up until the puppy is twelve months of age. If at any point in time during this period your puppy does not work up to the standards that he or she should, we will replace the puppy with the next available. Any non-working puppy must be evaluated by the seller either by video or in person prior to considering the puppy to be non-working. Any deemed non-working puppy must be returned to Mastock Malinois prior to be replaced. At no point in time is the seller responsible for any traveling costs incurred. This puppy is guaranteed against any hereditary defects for two full years. We encourage you to spay/neuter your puppy. The buyer has read and understands the entire guarantee and acknowledges that NO CASH REFUND, in part or in full will be refunded nor will the seller be responsible for any veterinary expenses incurred by the buyer! I understand that I can not withdraw payment for any reason. I UNDERSTAND THAT ALL SALES ARE FINAL. BUYER'S SIGNATURE INDICATES FULL AGREEMENT OF ALL CONTRACT CONDITIONS AND TERMS.

At the very top it says "Whelp Date" And next to that it has the Moms name.


Down below it says: Sir__Maxey's Norskey
Dam___ (no listing )

HENCE

Dog/Puppy Sale Contract and Health Guarantee
Breed_____Belgian Malinois
Whelp date____ Ursula Lucke (written by seller) Sex: M (circled)
Sire___Maxey's Norskey
Dam___
Type of Food_ Diamond Naturals__






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To me the contract doesn't look like it was filled out right by the seller because he didn't put the Dam's name down in the Dam spot (no pun intended)

looks like the breeder has got a good C.Y.A. contract (cover your ass)

feed this little guy good and watch he dosen't slip on improper flooring

Progency list for Ursula Lucke
Father Maxey's Norskey


Doesn't that mean that the Dam is the daughter ?

Dam Pedigree
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/belgian_malinois/dog.html?id=563393


Father Pedigree

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/belgian_malinois/dog.html?id=898734

 Quote: John Caven

Progency list for Ursula Lucke
Father Maxey's Norskey


Doesn't that mean that the Dam is the daughter ?

Dam Pedigree
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/belgian_malinois/dog.html?id=563393


Father Pedigree

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/belgian_malinois/dog.html?id=898734

No, they're listing the sire of each litter this dog has had.
Apparently she's had at least two.

so why aren't those new pups listed in the registry ? Why can't I find them?

John,
When are you suppose to pick up the pup? If you've paid for the dog why isn't the dog with you now?

I'm not going to rain on your parade. You've had your heart set on this dog from your first post. You've shake'n hands on the deal and paid the do-re-me.
Would I have wanted to see more of the dam and the sire?....yes.
Would I have asked and straighten out some questions before hand?....yes.
Would I have gone to another breeder?.....perhaps.
But, I wasn't making the deal. I didn't look at the dog/s. I didn't talk to the breeder face to face.
None of us did, but you.

If you're happy with your choice then I'm happy for you.
And I think everyone should be happy for you.

I wish you the best of luck with your new pup.
May he be the best dog you've ever known.