Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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.... Just so you know...my dog (rescue) had severe DA issues when I first got him. And with correct training methods and alot of hard work and consistency I got him to the point of being able to ignore other dogs completely and not react to them at all.
so it is possible...it just will take some time to work through it.
pm me if you like...or just keep posting your questions.
I'm happy to say that I have had good results too with methodical desensitizing work. It IS a lot of work and it DOES take time, but this is the kind of satisfying work that has a positive effect on all areas of the dog's behavior (IMO) and your bond with the dog.
Always feel free to ask anything in any amount of detail. Threads about this kind of work benefit many people, IMO.
I also agree about simplicity in the initial charging (or loading) of your marker. JMO!
The goal is simple, but crucial to all future marker training: for the dog to clearly perceive the connection between the marker and the reward: The marker means "reward coming!"
Jevon Brookes Webboard User Reg: 01-04-2013
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So, day one working with marker training and Keeva did great. Me? Not so much. I charged the mark in the house. My mark being yes. The hardest part was making sure I said yes the exact same way. In the house was fine, when we went outside I completely forgot how I said yes in the house. I may get a clicker instead but if I want to go back to "yes" would that confuse her?
We came across a few dogs on our walk. She was much more easily redirected. All I would say was "nope" and her ears went back and she turned her head. I think she knew I had more treats. We were in a park jumping some benches and there was a dog that was about 20 feet away. With some encouragement I was able to keep her engaged.
Overall I made a bunch of mistakes today but Keeva did great. Hopefully I didn't confuse her too much.
This thread has kinda gotten off topic? Should I make another one documenting our progress?
Duane Hull Webboard User Reg: 09-23-2011
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Were it me, I'd stick with the "yes". You want to be consistent with your inflection, but it doesn't have to be perfect every time. She'll work through that, and you will be more consistent in just a few sessions.
A separate thread would be fine, or... you could join the journal thread "What did you work on today 2013". W'd love to have more contributors on that thread.
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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Were it me, I'd stick with the "yes". You want to be consistent with your inflection, but it doesn't have to be perfect every time. She'll work through that, and you will be more consistent in just a few sessions.
I agree with Duane. Yes, you can use a clicker too, but no rush. And an upbeat "yes" is all you need.
"We were in a park jumping some benches and there was a dog that was about 20 feet away. With some encouragement I was able to keep her engaged."
On leash, right?
With a thread about dog desensitizing, just a thought ..... yes, you might want to start a new thread about your progress, but maybe keep it separate from the group "what did you work on today" thread for the time being? The only reason I say this is because of wanting to be sure nothing about DA gets lost in a group thread that has nothing really dangerous in it .... for a while, wouldn't it be better if there was a thread clearly about a reactive dog that the desensitizing-experienced folks would remember to look at every time there was a post?
Also, you want regular feedback, and I'm not sure the group thread does.
Wendy Lefebvre Webboard User Reg: 12-08-2005
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Jevon,
timing is a very hard thing to get right at first.
I think we've all been there, our timing has been off and things go downhill after that.
As Connie pointed out, make sure that you aren't making a move towards the treat bag or moving your hands when you say "yes", wait a split second then reach for the bag. Otherwise the dog is going to read your hand movement as the mark.
Keep the sessions short and always end on a positive note.
Your dog will eventually learn that the word "yes" is his cue.
The inflection doesn't have to be the exact same every single time. Up beat?...yes!...exact same tone? not so much.
I can be on the phone and say "yes" in my phone conversation and his ears perk up. He doesn't just recognize the tone of the word...it's the actual word he reacts to now.
Jevon Brookes Webboard User Reg: 01-04-2013
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Thank you for the responses and encouragement. I have created another thread. I am getting some really good advice and help that I wanted to make sure that the information was seen by others. The thread is located here Working Through DA with Marker Training
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