Cameron, this particular incident was not intentional I don't purposefully walk the city streets with dogs I know I will be choking out at some point.

For me, when it comes to behavior mod and aggression, quite often the backyard is not where the behavior manifests or will not be effective in the general sense. I work where I need to work in order to help the dog and owner. Taking a dog home with me or to strange surroundings or having the owner come to my home for a session knowing the dog will not be exhibiting the behavior or will be more limited in the scope of the behavior, is pointless IMO. If you are working with the dog on a certain problem, and make it so where the dog will not be exhibiting the behavior.... how are you going to fix anything? When I do behavior mod it is completely separate from anything else. I also don't do board and train.

Around these parts people are not very concerned with animal cruelty, sadly enough. Also, AC knows me as I applied there and when Cajun was stolen I frequented the shelter.

true, my dogs can, and will be angels inside the home....

as far as pet co goes, maybe it is a local thing...
in NC, it is illegal for a pet store to sell dogs, hold an adoption fair, yes. sell dogs, no.

people come in the store all the time asking if we sell puppies.

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Sadly, in this area, PETCO still sells all manner of live animals, including puppies. These are not rescues that are being adopted, but rather, puppy-mill puppies.

The PETCOs in this area will ALSO hold adoptions, but they still sell mill puppies.

I don't know if it's a francise thing, or what, because I know PETCOs "official" policy is that they don't sell puppies. For that reason, I used to shop at my local PETCO, until I went inside and saw several puppies that appeared to be under 7 weeks of age. I inquired about when they would be ready for adoption, I was shocked to find out that they were already for sale. When I asked for clarification, "You mean adoption, right?", I was told that these were "sale" puppies, and that rescue adoptions are only done on certain days.

Even the stores that aren't selling dogs, are still selling all manner of other animal- and even though I am a hunter and meat eater, my outrage at animal breeding mills extends beyond dogs, to ALL the live animals sold at PETCO and other stores.

Bottom line, I don't patronize any store that sells live animals, of ANY sort.

Huh.... interesting. Not to cast doubt upon this story but I can't imagine the western Washington regional cooridinator or the western coordinator allowing this. Petco is not a franchise operation anywhere in this state that I'm aware of and there is a policy against selling puppies and kittens on the corp level. Yes there are other animals with the highest animal up the food chain being ferrets BUT never puppies and kittens for sale. We aren't even allowed to post signs for puppies for sale on our bulletin boards so I am having trouble wrapping my brain around this one. Maybe it was a petcity or one of a bunch of other chain stores which do carry dogs?

That said it is possible that a rescue group keeps puppies at the store but that is highly highly unusual. I can't imagine a rescue coordinator bringing sale puppies either though because they'd be risking their invitation and their petco foundation money.

Pictures or location, please Can you guess where I work yet?

I have been to Petco stores at locations everywhere I travel, as I can take my dog in with me, and I have never seen them sell dogs. The only puppies that I have seen is with rescue groups. I know that they won't even allow ads for puppies or dogs for sell on their board. If anyone sees puppies for sale at a Petco store, I would report it to their corporate office, however, I have a hard time believing that any Petco would be doing this.

Sorry to double post.

We did receive notication at work concerning the CM stuff and we just got the signage for it. I'm holding off on being real thrilled with it until I see what exactly what it is. I'm kinda hoping we carry some of the stuff he has on his website as I'm curious to see his videos outside of the show but if I heard correctly the total product list is about 800 items to start with and with a list that long odds are it's going to be alot of campy stuff like dishes, shirts, toys, leashes, etc rather than what he actually uses which seems to me from watching the show is whatever he has on hand with the exception of that illusion collar thing.

The food bearing his name will be manufactured by Castor and Pollux but any other details at this point are unreleased.

I've read the posts and wanted to add my two cents. Cesar's methods aren't just about the touch and the shht sound he makes. He states repeatedly it's about your mindset and energy level. He gets the same using a light heel tap or a walking stick when he's walking multiple dogs. I'm pretty sure he says that you have to be in the right place mentally for your dog to listen to you- dog's don't respond to nervous energy, they respond to calm assertive energy. Also, he's not a dog trainer and he recommends dog training to his clients and has done so repeatedly on the show. There was the episode with the Lab who had a lot of nervous energy and he introduced the owners to a hunting trainer. Also, there was an episode with a german shepherd where he introduced the owner and the dog to a trainer who specialized in dog training.

I think Ed mentioned it in an earlier post- his background and meethodology is meant to enhance your relationship with your dog and to get owners to understand pack behavior, pack rules and pack leadership. He's not meant to teach your dog to sit and stay.

Yes, and there were episodes (dalmation fire pup) where he actually SAYS he isn't a sit/stay trainer, he rehabilitates. He brought a trainer in for that episode, and the trainer was using markers to train the pup to stop drop and roll.
And he uses the shht sound because that was the sound his mother made when he was a child as a correction sound. Any sound works, just as long as you are in the right place mentally.

I do the "shht" sound with Redhead, mainly because it seems to get his attention.

I have never seen an episode of Cesar Milan, although I am generally familiar with his philosophy. What I have read of it seems self-obvious, at least when you cut out the new-agey packaging.