Hi Eric, welcome to the board.

 Quote: Eric Eisenberg

lets set some facts straight. Central Alabama Schutzhund Club had written permission to use the tracking fields. The only pending court case is a criminal court case The State of Alabama vs. Gary Michael Hanrahan. This has already been in front of the judge(Judge Phillip Seay St.Clair county district court) and the judge found enough evidence for a conviction. No penalty was given at my request so that I could compete at the AWDF. It will now go back to court as Mr. Hanrahan has violated the judges orders. The police were called by Mr. Hanrahan during the trial. The police then followed Mr. hanrahan off the property. We re-layed the tracks and continued the tracking portion of the trial this can be seen on the video.

This is all i am going to say on the topic.

Eric S. Eisenberg

Eric, thanks much for clearing things up!
And welcome to the forum!

Eric

Thanks for posting. As you are closer to this case than the rest of us - I would ask that you make a poste after the judge has ruled on this case.

Ed

((( lets set some facts straight. Central Alabama Schutzhund Club had written permission to use the tracking fields. The only pending court case is a criminal court case The State of Alabama vs. Gary Michael Hanrahan. This has already been in front of the judge(Judge Phillip Seay St.Clair county district court) and the judge found enough evidence for a conviction. No penalty was given at my request so that I could compete at the AWDF. It will now go back to court as Mr. Hanrahan has violated the judges orders. The police were called by Mr. Hanrahan during the trial. The police then followed Mr. hanrahan off the property. We re-layed the tracks and continued the tracking portion of the trial this can be seen on the video.

This is all i am going to say on the topic.

Eric S. Eisenberg ))))



I live in the area where the tracking was held and know members of Central as well as others involved. There seems to be some disagreement between the parties if there was written permission to use the land. Eric, will you post a copy of the written permission letter from the owner of the property and the endorsement letter from Central's insurance carrier covering the landowner for the day of the trial? This would sure clear up the question of whether there was permission and if the trial was properly insured as required.

I too will be anxiously awaiting the result of the court case as a lot will be cleared up.

If Eric said there is written permission thats good enough for me. I would believe him long before I would believe Gary Hanrahan.

But for the sake of an argument - lets make an assumption. Lets assume that there was not a letter of permission. Does this give Gary Hanrahan the right to drive an hour from his home and drive all over tracks that have been laid? I THINK NOT !!! WATCH THE VIDEO!!

If there was no permission (and my bet is there was) any normal person would go inform the land owner so the land owner could come and stop the strial or "SO THE LAND OWNER COULD CALL LAW ENFORCEMENT".

It's my opinion Gary Hanrahan doesn't know the meaning of the words sportsmanship. Ask Eric how many times Bary Hanrahan has mad anti-semitic insults to Eric while they were on the field together.

Should anyone need a role model for sportsmanship they only need look at the Schutzhund trial that was held here in the states a week or so ago.

Helmut Raiser, with Finch von Loyola won with 284: 97/93/94. John
Jabina, with Jabina Dighte was second place with 282: 95/89/98. T. Floyd, with Karlo vom Floyd Haus, bred, raised and trained by T. was third place with 281: 99/91/91.



There was a $10,000 Cash Prize to be awarded to the winner. Helmut said that he didn't feel right keeping it all to himself, with so many outstanding competitors and performances in the Tournament, so he gave away half of his Winner's Cash prize ($5,000) to the competitors who placed second through sixth place? $1,000 each to several competitors placing from second place on down...

The sport of schutzhund does not need people like Gary Hanrahan. As far as I am concerned he is a disgrace to the sport and its people like him that are bringing the sport down.

The president os USA and the board that chose to ignore this are nothing more than lackeys to people like Hanrahan. When they turn their heads and ignore this they lower themselves to his level.

Anyone thinking of a dog sport should look towards the DVG or WDA. USA is a failed corrupt organization.

Ed, I'm not trying to start an argument, just asking a question. I did watch the video and know Gary Cooper, the man doing the talking. I recognize Wallace's voice and several others.

We've only heard one side of the story to date and while the video looks bad, I'm waiting for the other side since there is always one. I've heard a lot from Central's members, some who are friends and are not happy with the situation. I'm sure when the trial is over, more info will come out from USA and perhaps Gary. With a court trial as was mentioned above, it would not be wise for USA or Gary to say anything until the trial is over or at least until the trial starts or the case is dismissed.

As to driving an hour, Gary lives about 500 yards through the woods from that field as the crow flies. It's Central that's about an hour away. The field is about 10 miles from my home.

As far as permission and insurance, that is easy to prove, just post copies which is all I've asked Eric to do and put all to rest, at least in my mind.

If there was no written permission, did the landowner or someone else call Gary since, as stated on the video, that is the field Gary uses for his trials? Just asking since he had to find out some way and I don't know the answer.

As far as anti-semetic name calling, I've never heard Gary use any racial slur and would like to hear from anyone who has heard him use one.

As I said I know members of both clubs and but am not a member of either. I've worked at Central's club as recently as a couple of months ago. Since I live in this area , I just want to know the facts of all that occurred and why they occurred. That's just the way I am and so far, I haven't. That posting of permission and insurance would really help clear it up for me.

This sounds very close to a defense of what Hanrhan did.

The video of what he did is inexcusable. There is NO JUSTIFCATION FOR IT - NONE !!! and for anyone to try and say that there is - well I wont comment on what I think about that.

As I said I will believe Eric every day over Gary Hanrahan.

If the club did not have permission or insurance let someone file seperate charges.

There is no excuse to disrupt a trial.

Justifying such behavior through administrative details is simply whitewash.
If Gary had a legitimate complaint he should have called the local law enforcement office and made a report and followed up with a complaint to the Board of Inquiry, in addition he could have sought a restraining order or trespass order with the assistance of the land owner.
That is the way civilized, normal people work out their problems. Thugs thieves, and ego maniacs do so through confrontation and intimidation.
I can care less about the details. What I saw on the video was poor human behavior,simply low browed bullying.
Good people should shun people who behave this way regardless of the details.

Update. The court hearing on the case Eric mentioned he had filed against Gary was held on July 2nd. Eric did not show up for the trial and the judge dismissed all charges against Gary with prejudice which means they cannot be brought up again. Just guessing but Eric may not have shown up because a day or so before the hearing Eric, Central and others were sent a letter by the landowner stating Central was trespassing on his property the day of the trial.