Your facility is part of a larger vet facility, right?

mike, were you purposely ignoring alyssa's question about the foot stepping, or did you just not know, and were not wanting to say you didn't know, because i saw her ask it at least 4 separate times....everyone else saw it.....

i only ask because in order for us to understand where you are coming from, and to trust what you say, you need to be forthright. ignoring multiple direct questions makes me personally wonder if you are for real....


what if lets say i brought bart in to be at your facility while i work. lets say i really have no clue about dogs, so i am trusting you. Bart is DA, but i am a clueless twit, and don't know it. So I bring him in, you let out 3 or 4 other dogs for him to "meet". Literally in the blink of an eye, and with little warning, he attacks them, and a massive fight has broken out. Either bart gets hurt badly, or dies, or he kills another dog. maybe yours, maybe another clients.

How will you handle this? How will you explan this to the other owner?


Because it only takes a second. You cannot know how another dog will act until it is too late in many cases, so i am asking you, why have you chosen to base a business on a risk like this?

What is YOUR business and YOUR experience offering that is worth the risk of sending dogs there when a dog like bart could come by at any moment???

alyssa, we moved from that spot, long story short, owner was a greedy ,money hungry POS, he had to sell, debt up to his eyeballs, if thats the place your talking bout.
Mallory, i did not ignore anything, sorry im not glued to my computer, to anwser your bart question, we have a four foot wall which we watch the dog to see how he responds to the dogs in the day care, most dogs jump up to see who there. looking at the dog its not hard to see what hes going to be like. if he jumps at the wall aggresively, what do you think?, we dont just take dogs off the street, there are phone calls made to there vet, I ask a ton of questions to the owner. they have to fill out paperwork about the dog, so there is a process. it is very easy to take any dog and take the money, which is even easier, my sister and i are not about that, safty is our number one concern. there is a DDC in boston that averages 50 to 60 dogs a day and they charge $50 a dog a day, do the math, we dont do that, i can tell you horror storys that have happened there, but people still go back.

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what if lets say i brought bart in to be at your facility while i work. lets say i really have no clue about dogs, so i am trusting you. Bart is DA, but i am a clueless twit, and don't know it. So I bring him in, you let out 3 or 4 other dogs for him to "meet". Literally in the blink of an eye, and with little warning, he attacks them, and a massive fight has broken out. Either bart gets hurt badly, or dies, or he kills another dog. maybe yours, maybe another clients.

Wait, wait....even a clueless twit would know that their dog is not good around other dogs. They may not understand what it is, or what causes it (fear, dominance, defensive and what not....), but they would still know.

I guess the scenario I would change this too, is that the clueless twit left out the part about the dog aggression, or play it down, since they did not really know what it was.

IMHO, if anyone thinks about utilizing a facility like this and fails to disclose their dogs temperament, then that would be their own fault.

On the other hand, it IS up to the facility to evaluate the dog before allowing off lead interactions.

I think those are two of the major issues between pet owners and doggie day care centers.

NEVER in my later life (when I was young and did not know better, yes) have I allowed two adult dogs off lead without first introducing them....loose leads and calm body language from both handlers.....and if there were signs of issues...by no means did we take leads off.

I have issues with the whole "Oh he'll be fine" either said by the handler OR by the facility.....

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... the issues im having is making sure im doing it right. i work close with the trainers there, and they coach me on what im doing. ...

Then you have experienced PPD trainers at your facility? I had the impression that YOU were the PPD trainer.

i am the PP at my facility, didnt say i was the expert, im still working on bettering my decoy and aggitation, my dog maximus is great at it, its helped me and my family in the past. the PPT we work and train on friday nights, did you not get that.

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.... the PPT we work and train on friday nights, did you not get that.

No, I didn't get it. Thank you for the explanation.

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i am the PP at my facility, didnt say i was the expert, im still working on bettering my decoy and aggitation, my dog maximus is great at it, its helped me and my family in the past. the PPT we work and train on friday nights, did you not get that.

Michael,

I had asked what methods you use for training earlier, but I think it got missed with all the replies....so hope you don't mind me asking again....what training methods for bitework do you use?

Feel free to PM me with your answers...if you would rather do it that way.

you want the whole start to finish?? in a nut shell,all dogs have to be trained on and off leash, well socilized with poeple kids ,dogs, confident, then i explain the details of what the training is all about, most people dont have the time or money, dog gets evaluated to see if he/she is ready, if the dog shows drive, we move outside start this the burlap, the sausage, we teach an out command before we teach the dog to bite, cease all agression til turned on by the handler, aggitate work on the bite, move to long bite, off leash bark and hold, be able to recall the dog before he bites, then we may work on diffrent scenarios, car , truck, house., theres more, does that explain it enough? its not ring work its personal protection, like i said earlier it has helped me in the past

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then i explain the details of what the training is all about

Thanks, pretty condensed, but this is more what I was interested in. The details of the training.