Here is a question that I would be interested in hearing both of your opinions/answers to:
in reponse to the Origional Poster's problem, I believe one could very quickly use clicker training to teach the dog the game of fetch, using rewards based on aproximate actions...
Anyway, my question is: Based on your experience, what factors would cause this to work, or not work? (please use whatever terms you see fit)
I'll jump in on that one - clicker training would work just fine --IF -- you had a reward for her that was more attractive than hunting animal scents or chasing squirrels. But his problem is that there is NOTHING she finds more interesting or rewarding than that, so no matter what reinforcer you offer, it's of less value to her than the activity that she can do without you.
Thanks for getting this back on topic folks (no offense to Dave & VanCamp, but I was really trolling for suggestions even if the original post I made came off otherwise...) :rolleyes:
Sch3FH2--did you see my earlier post about changing my training method this morning? Would be interested to get your take on that.
I can't use devices like clickers--not coordinated enough <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> --but I tend to agree with Sch3FH2 that without an incentive stronger than the scent of game I don't see how it could help me much.
Yup, saw that and I think it's the right direction to go. You're doing everything you can to make yourself and YOUR game as attractive as possible, while simultaneously controlling her ability to go off and self-amuse. With a dog like that, it sounds like she might stay motivated as long as the ball is active and she can chase it - I would limit the number of times I allowed her to win it. Keep her frustration high cuz once she wins, she's out of drive. And I would do exactly what you described when she went off sniffing - call her which gives her a chance to avoid any correction, then pop her lightly to bring her back and show her that coming back to you initiates the play again. To be honest, sounds like a frustrating dog to work and you're going to be working every bit as hard as she is, but I commend you for making the effort!
I would recommend building intensity by putting the ball on a string and attaching it to a flirt stick. Don't do it with distraction until the dog is CRAZY to catch the quickly moving ball at the end of the string.
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