 Re: Thinking of getting a working line GSD
[Re: susan tuck ]
#210571 - 09/22/2008 11:50 PM |
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I just have a weird way of provign a point. 
Now I'm really confused. I have no clue what you think you have proven. You have made a bunch of downright silly statements regarding schutzhund, and you have put words in other peoples mouths. That does prove something, but not what you want. For my purposes, no, a SAR title would not be enough for me to use a dog for stud, I would hope it wouldn't be "enough" for anyone.
I've proven a point to myself, so dont worry about it hun. It would be enough for someone who's breeding program focuses on SAR. What makes a Sch title "enough" then? I see SAR as a WAY more serious important venue that Schutzhund (which I do for fun, and dont get worked up about it, after all its only a hobby to me).
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Re: Thinking of getting a working line GSD
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#210573 - 09/22/2008 11:53 PM |
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And with that I bow out. But next time think how it feels to pass judgement and how infuriating it could be for someone to make claims about something they have no experience with. 
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Re: Thinking of getting a working line GSD
[Re: Aleida Cebreco ]
#210575 - 09/23/2008 12:07 AM |
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You all keep going back to my maturity and experience (yet you know nothing about me)
Well, by your own posting we know that you're 18 years old.
You had a GSD until it was 16 months old and that appears to be the basis of your training history.
You haven't titled a dog in any venue.
You've had some issues with an aggressive dog.
Again, all this information is what you've told us in your past posts.
So you're claiming that you have these strong views which you've either read or heard from someone, because you certainly don't have the time experience to have developed them yourself.
You complain about working dogs not being "real" and the such, but c'mon, really - how many different dogs have you even seen trained on a SchH field? A dozen?
I'm sorry, you come off sounding like, well, a teenager.
Basically, you're here to argue, not learn.
And discussions with a person who wants to push a viewpoint that they honestly don't know anything about is, well, boring.
And if you feel that's an excuse, oh well. :whistle
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Re: Thinking of getting a working line GSD
[Re: Aleida Cebreco ]
#210576 - 09/23/2008 12:11 AM |
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hahahaha!!!! Once again Will, please delete this post, you said it better and much nicer! 
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Re: Thinking of getting a working line GSD
[Re: Will Rambeau ]
#210577 - 09/23/2008 12:19 AM |
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Actually that was my second GSD. I started training for schutzhud in 2006 (obedience in 2003 with my Dobe)and was going to trial for our BH that June he was taken from me. I've seen enough decent dogs and had one hell of a mentor (the head of the Detroit K9 unit 35yrs of experience, and I will be more than happy to forward his info via PM). I sound like a teenager, when you all sound like a bunch of spoiled brats when people dont agree with you, and use the "ineperienced" card, anytime you dont have the real answers. Yeah ok. I rather learn hands on then over the internet....
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Re: Thinking of getting a working line GSD
[Re: susan tuck ]
#210578 - 09/23/2008 12:20 AM |
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hahahaha!!!! Once again Will, please delete this post, you said it better and much nicer!
Buh bye hun 
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Re: Thinking of getting a working line GSD
[Re: Aleida Cebreco ]
#210579 - 09/23/2008 12:22 AM |
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You are not only immature, you are very disrespectful. I am done wasting my time talking to someone who thinks she knows it all but has proven she knows absoloutly nothing.
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Re: Thinking of getting a working line GSD
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#210580 - 09/23/2008 12:29 AM |
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You are not only immature, you are very disrespectful. I am done wasting my time talking to someone who thinks she knows it all but has proven she knows absoloutly nothing.
Actually if you knew me you would know I am one of the most respectful "teenagers" out there, but dont take kindly to a challenge or a question of my characted and experience. you dont know me yet you question EVERYTHING I have to say on this forum and others. You dont know me of my life so do NOT question me or my maturity. You have NO clue what I've been through in my life so you cannot pass judgement on me. I'm one of the most quietest respectful person you will meet. You typically wont hear anything come out of my mouth, but once I form an opinion I stick by it and will defend my views anyway I see fit.
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Re: Thinking of getting a working line GSD
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#210581 - 09/23/2008 12:47 AM |
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The breeder's stud dog is Max correct? And I believe he is a certified SAR dog. So he is not breed worthy because he is saving people instead of biting them? What is a "working dog" Will? Please inform me what traits are considered a working dog and what arent. Because if a SAR isnt a "real" working dog, then I dont know what is.
Susan, this breeder was put down because her dogs arent breed surveyed, yet the stud dog is a SAR dog. You cant have everything in this world, an my point was that everyone has their own opinions and uses for their breeding program, and one dog shouldnt be dismissed because it serves a different purpose other than Schutzhund.
Of course I think a SAR dog is a REAL working dog. That said, a stud that is a SAR dog doesn't mean much to me even for chosing a SAR dog. Not more or less than many other titles be they sport, agility, hunting, tracking, blah blah. Need MUCH more information.
I do not think that my SAR dog should reproduce for example, even though I can certify him year after year and think that he is a good little search dog.
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Re: Thinking of getting a working line GSD
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#210582 - 09/23/2008 12:50 AM |
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BTW my opinion on this thread has NOTHING to do with Schutzhund and its purpose. My opinion and point is about passing judgement on something you know nothing about. And not everyone has the same goals or purpose for a dog. Some want Schutzhund prospects, CPP prospects, SAR prospects, Herding prospects, service dog prospects ect.
To the OP find a breeding program that YOU like, dogs that impress you and that you feel will fit into your lifestyle best.
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