I have to disagree with the detail here, dogs mindlessly gaiting or such does not satisfy their drive, it just physically wears them out. which then you have to increase to get the same effect.

THE DOG CRAVES INTERACTION, MOVEMENT WITH THE HAANDLER, MENTAAL AND PHYSICAAL STIMULATION.

it's that simple, I must be a mega-genius, I can solve 19 out of 10 pet behaviour problems like this.

the dog does not need reducing and containg thru corrections/submission/treadmill etc, it's a bored high energy dog that wants to play aand have it's drives satisfied, the owner is incapable of seeing this and is going to all this effort to see something else and do everything else accept the simple solution.

this dog might not be a good fit with the owner.

have all the dog trainers left the planet?????

Obviously not a good fit. What to do now?

You don't feel that asking the dog to restrain himself would help with the backyard aggression? I watched all of your videos, and while you are big and fit and have no issue with your dogs jumping up on you, others may not be able to handle it.

I have a zoomer/spinner/wants to go ouside/wants to interact constantly dog. I can't put on shoes without my dog going into a spin, but she'll chill when I request, and I certainly calm her with OB when the situation calls for it.

I knew what dog I was getting before I got the dog, I don't want to change my dog, I want my dog to be what he is and be happy. I am not perfect but I think I am doing a pretty good job, not rocket science, if I can do it - anyone can.


sorry if I sound a bit short, with animals comes responsibility.

I've mentioned "getting the right dog" 100 times on this forum. That's not what this thread is about. John already has the dog. Now he's trying to figure out how to manage it.

I live with a pushy spinner. We both benefit from a wee timeout when she gets too wound up. I allow more ruckus when she's outside than when we are inside. Sometimes I let her run all over me getting out the door, but sometimes I don't appreciate it, and it's nice to be able to tell her to "sit" and "wait" before I let her go.

Physical exercise, however mindless it may be, is still a good outlet for a dog's energy, even if it doesn't satisfy the drives.

Being in drive is not an excuse for pushiness or aggression.

All JMO...

"Physical exercise, however mindless it may be, is still a good outlet for a dog's energy, even if it doesn't satisfy the drives. "

DITTO.



"Being in drive is not an excuse for pushiness or aggression."

DITTO.

gotcha, personally I prefer pushy and obnoxious.

as far as OP, not sure if he mentioned his willingness to join a sport dog club??

John, I think your dog (he's a beauty) is into the treadmill because it pleases you, it's something he has learned, as much as the working out, I think.

Sometimes just learning some "stupid pet tricks", with marker training, can get a dog thinking and eliminate a lot of nerves. Get him thinking.

He looks desperate to please, to relate to you. Teach him something! Something new every 3 or 4 days.

"Seek" (find something hidden) is easy and fun. "Speak" is good for dogs who like to bark. "Sit up" takes core strength and balance. "Hide and seek" ( you hide, he's on a stay, you call him, he comes....) He shows control when he's concentrating on what you ask.

I think he just needs interaction and something for his mind to work on. He looks like a great dog.

Betty! GREAT post:

"He looks desperate to please, to relate to you. Teach him something! Something new every 3 or 4 days. "

:-)

Betty gave some really good suggestions. Training can be (should be, IMHO) great fun for both of you, as well as a good bonding thing.

That dog-handler interaction is what it's all about.

At the same time, I agree a million percent with everyone who is saying that "a tired dog is a good dog" and that frustrated energy sharpens just about every unwanted (and destructive) behavior.

Fetch (for example) is excellent for (1) burning off frustrated energy, and it's (2) interactive! A Chuck-It can be a big help if the dog's energy level is far higher than the human's, and it's (3) just the thing for high prey drive.


Thinking is tiring for the dog, too, so for me, teaching tricks as well as the usual life-lessons is never a waste of time or something to be looked down on.





This next is very basic, regardless of what tools are under discussion or what training methods are being used: Rock-solid obedience coupled with strong pack structure is the groundwork to virtually all behavior issues.

I don't even necessarily mean constant use of "no," either. What I mean is that a dog who has a reliable "down" or "place" or even "sit" is not a dog who is jumping on someone or dashing ahead of you or anything else .... not when he has been given his reliable "down" or "sit" or "place" (or whatever) command.

I also prefer teaching what I want over constantly correcting. So doorbell behavior, for example, has a command (not "No no! stop jumping! Stop barking!"), and it's practiced very frequently ... enough to become second nature.

But any bulletproof command, when given, means that the dog does THAT, not whatever the unwanted behavior is.

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I agree a million percent with everyone who is saying that "a tired dog is a good dog" and that frustrated energy sharpens just about every unwanted (and destructive) behavior.

Thinking is tiring for the dog too, so for me, teaching tricks as well as the usual life-lessons is never a waste of time or something to be looked down on.

This is very basic, regardless of what tools are under discussion or what training methods are being used: Rock-solid obedience coupled with strong pack structure is the groundwork to virtually all behavior issues...

But any bulletproof command, when given, means that the dog does THAT, not whatever the unwanted behavior is.

Spoken strictly as an Amateur PET Owner here (All please note my disclaimer, LOL):

This GREAT dog seems pretty much "calm/compliant" INDOORS...

If he belonged to me, I would "EXHAUST" him on the Indoor Treadmill before ever starting OUTDOOR EXERCISE...

I would then take him outside Initially Onlead using all DOORWAY PROTOCOL of "Sit, Wait, Heel, Etc."...

I would next put him through His Entire Repertoire of COMMANDS Still ONLEAD beginning with whatever "Potty" trigger-response he follows, in order To Establish OUTDOOR Obedience Mode while also reinforcing PACK Structure RANK...

Brain Work tires out MOST dogs More Thoroughly than "road work" will WITHOUT building up the same kind & level of "endurance-tolerance"...

I would FINALLY proceed to Offlead BACKYARD Exercise with the dog Wearing his E-Collar only AFTER he had Drained Off enough FRUSTRATED Drive TENSION in order to Hopefully Lesson some of his stress-venting "PLAY-FIGHTING"...

Once again, I'm just an Average PET Owner who is NOT interested in training my Personal Dog to do any Sport BITE Work -- I have no idea how the OP feels about pursuing something like Schutzhund ... But I'm with Duane Hall and the others such as Connie Sutherland here who ARE interested in helping John Stowe to MAXIMIZE his Relationship with this Dog