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Originally posted by wismz:
...I know you can neutor your dogs, but if you want a protection dog don't you have to wait till after they have full matured. Thats what I meant.

Lauran:
yes you do think with you testicles to some extant...

But waiting until the dog is fully mature and not neutering at all are completely different. I have no problem with waiting until maturity to alter the animals (assuming the owner can take care of them in a responsible matter) but I've seen too many old intact males with problems to want that for my future dogs.

I think that you need to think about that second statement for a little bit <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> .

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WOW, sure did take alot of moderators to fill ole Vince's shoes.....

I think Ed is just covering all his bases. Was there like an official knighting ceremony? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I am noticing an unusual amount of testosterone on the Moderator list. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Poor Cindy, I have spent the last 3 weeks writing a paper on gender inequality, don't get me started.

Lauren, it is proven, men do tend to think... err.. differently. They think about sex every 4 seconds. No wonder they think we are evil. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Lastly, I am in agreeance with Richard. There are a lot of people that tell you that you have to wait to neuter or your dog will not be a good protection dog. It can really go either way. You can keep the dog intact and he may not work out due to too much defense and aggression directed inappropriately, or you can neuter and possibly end up with a dog lacking in those same areas. Problem with comparing them is we have no way of comparing the two, even with dogs from the same litter the dogs are still individuals and will turn out differently due to the combination of many different things.

Don't remove teeth if you want a protection dog, nuts are optional. I have seen a few bitches I wouldn't want to mess with... and guess what, NO NUTS. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

If you are afraid of what the "others" will think, they make implants. Do a search for neuticals sometime.

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Originally posted by Schnauzergirl:

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I am noticing an unusual amount of testosterone on the Moderator list.

Yes but lets not forget that VanCamp has informed me that he DOES have a feminine side. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Hey everybody,
quick question for the experts out there. I have an 11 month old pit bull and I am considering getting her spayed. She just finished her first heat about two weeks ago. I am not planning on breeding her. The main reason I want to get it done is so I don't have to deal with the bleeding. I also plan to do a little protection training maybe. I have heard if you wait until after the first heat the dog will have all of its "permanent charachteristics" by that time and it is the best time to do it? Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated. Stoner

That is the age that most of the Vets I talk to recomend. The dog is old enough to have obtained their full size and the surgery is easier.

The vet's in this area advise spay and neuter just prior to six months old. That is what I have always followed.
In the last 7 or 8 years; the US Humane Society changed their policy and will alter as young as 10 weeks old prior to home placement. In speaking with many vets about this; there is no long term history's to follow to evaluate any medical malidys that may be caused as a result of youngster alteration.
I understand the USHS's position but cannot condone it.