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Janice Jarman wrote 10/30/2007 12:30 PM Re: Designer Dogs...a bad idea is getting worse [Re: Valerie Tietz-Kelly ] #160316 - 10/30/2007 12:30 PM
Janice Jarman Webboard User Reg: 04-19-2005 Posts: 505 Loc: Mid Missouri USA Offline	Lee, #1 there is NO excuse for so called "Designer Dogs", they are simply money makers for the "breeders" aka puppy mills aka back yard breeders. Designer dogs have nothing to do with improving a breed, or making a better whatever sort of dog, designer dogs have everything to do with making money. Period. #2 You're not supposed to be posting pictures here. Links yes, pictures no. #3 This is a pointless discusssion,as you are comparing apples to oranges, I think. Janice Jarman
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Lee Robinson wrote 10/30/2007 12:56 PM Re: Designer Dogs...a bad idea is getting worse [Re: Janice Jarman ] #160325 - 10/30/2007 12:56 PM
Lee Robinson Webboard User Reg: 10-01-2005 Posts: 38 Loc: Mississippi Offline	I knew at one time this forum didn't like pictures to be posted, but I have seen so many topics with pictures lately I figured that policy had changed. After going back to review that policy, I made an error, the moderators or administrators will have to edit the post as the edit time has already expired for me. My apology for the mistake. Edited comment...I went back and read the rules about posting pictures. I noticed there are several pictures within this very topic, but didn't realize they were parts of signatures. My mistake. As far as the designer dogs...well, on that I agree. I simply was addressing the fact that not every cross breeding program is about designer breeds.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/30/2007 01:05 PM Re: Designer Dogs...a bad idea is getting worse [Re: Lee Robinson ] #160327 - 10/30/2007 01:05 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Lee Robinson I simply was addressing the fact that not every cross breeding program is about designer breeds. But this thread is.
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Lee Robinson wrote 10/30/2007 01:08 PM Re: Designer Dogs...a bad idea is getting worse [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #160330 - 10/30/2007 01:08 PM
Lee Robinson Webboard User Reg: 10-01-2005 Posts: 38 Loc: Mississippi Offline	If I misunderstood, I apologize...When you can't really blame me for doing so because when one mentions crossings like "Am Staffs" or Am staff x APBT are in this same topic...I wouldn't say that this topic is "exclusively" about "designer dogs"...but really more about cross breeding. I say this because Am Staff x APBT dogs may be a cross, but it certainly isn't a "designer cross." Also, as briefly mentioned to limited detail, many APBT would see the original Am Staffs most likely have some Neapolitan and DDB bred into them...some long ago, and some not so long ago. (Note to administration/moderators, thank you for removing the photos in my previous post).
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/30/2007 01:11 PM Re: Designer Dogs...a bad idea is getting worse [Re: Lee Robinson ] #160331 - 10/30/2007 01:11 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	I hadn't seen that post. Or posts.
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Lee Robinson wrote 10/30/2007 01:15 PM Re: Designer Dogs...a bad idea is getting worse [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #160332 - 10/30/2007 01:15 PM
Lee Robinson Webboard User Reg: 10-01-2005 Posts: 38 Loc: Mississippi Offline	No worries. It sounds as if our view of designer dogs is the same. My mentioning of some programs crossing dogs for functional purposes was only done to illustrate that not all cross breeding programs are done only for $...as some indeed are done for a purpose. Your questioning only allowed me to clarify what I was trying to describe...that designer dogs and cross breeding isn't one and the same. For that, I thank you.
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Lee Robinson wrote 10/30/2007 01:23 PM Re: Designer Dogs...a bad idea is getting worse [Re: Valerie Tietz-Kelly ] #160337 - 10/30/2007 01:23 PM
Lee Robinson Webboard User Reg: 10-01-2005 Posts: 38 Loc: Mississippi Offline	I have some images I would like to provide links to as they relate to crossing dogs for functional purposes...but I want to make sure I am complient with the Leerburg board policy. Is it correct that links to an image are allowed even though embedding the photo within the post is not allowed?
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Janice Jarman wrote 10/30/2007 01:27 PM Re: Designer Dogs...a bad idea is getting worse [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #160338 - 10/30/2007 01:27 PM
Janice Jarman Webboard User Reg: 04-19-2005 Posts: 505 Loc: Mid Missouri USA Offline	Connie, you said you hadn't seen that post or posts, this is probably because this thread started in January, and it was originally about designer dogs, and the topic wandered, but only a little bit. APBT's and Staffy's were mentioned a few times, though. I don't think all cross breeding is bad, either. Especially if the crossing serves a purpose to improve a particular line of dogs. And not to just line the pockets of the "breeders". Edited by Janice Jarman (10/30/2007 01:28 PM) Edit reason: expaining a little better Janice Jarman
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Connie Sutherland wrote 10/30/2007 02:03 PM Re: Designer Dogs...a bad idea is getting worse [Re: Lee Robinson ] #160344 - 10/30/2007 02:03 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Lee Robinson I have some images I would like to provide links to as they relate to crossing dogs for functional purposes...but I want to make sure I am complient with the Leerburg board policy. Is it correct that links to an image are allowed even though embedding the photo within the post is not allowed? Links are allowed, yes (only to images in keeping with the purposes and policies of the board, of course). Images themselves are allowed only: As a signature photo One in a tribute to a dog who has died In the member's intro bio Thank you.
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Lee Robinson wrote 10/30/2007 02:40 PM Re: Designer Dogs...a bad idea is getting worse [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #160357 - 10/30/2007 02:40 PM
Lee Robinson Webboard User Reg: 10-01-2005 Posts: 38 Loc: Mississippi Offline	I don't know if this is getting "off topic" or not concerning cross breeding when the topic may be about cross breeding or perhaps just about designer dogs in general...but I would like to simply remind viewers not to assume that every cross breeding program is a "designer dog project" of fad idea. Some have a purpose and a goal. Here are a few cross bred dogs with the intent of improving the mastiff type dogs for PP applications. In brief, the goal of the program is to capture some of the power of the mastiff, but to improve the drives and abilities. Apparently, many of the best sled dogs are cross bred "huskies." As I stated earlier, as long as there is a goal I am ok with cross breeding, but just doing cross breeding for the sake of cross breeding or for $ is simply shouldn't be accepted.
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