Thats what buddies are for. It doesnt change the fact that Hanrahan drove all over tracks that were already laid. It doesnt change the fact that USA is a good old boys club that in my pinion should be abandend by membership. I have been a member since 1976 and will not renew my membership over this. In fact when I have time I will write articles promoting other sch organizations.

USA is a corrupt organization with weak leadership. It has become a sad sad joke.

Once again, justifying and enabling such behavior in UScA. Too bad it promotes poor sportsmanship and continued poor behavior on the part of significant members of UScA. Still makes me ill that it was handled sooo poorly on Hanrahans side. Behaving like a gentleman seems out of reach for some people.

 Quote: Carl Randall

Update. The court hearing on the case Eric mentioned he had filed against Gary was held on July 2nd. Eric did not show up for the trial and the judge dismissed all charges against Gary with prejudice which means they cannot be brought up again. Just guessing but Eric may not have shown up because a day or so before the hearing Eric, Central and others were sent a letter by the landowner stating Central was trespassing on his property the day of the trial.

Carl Randall get your head out of Hanrahans ass and quit spreading rumors you know nothing about, your b.s. is untrue. The court case against Gary Hanrahan has been rescheduled for sept. 3, 2008.

Eric S. Eisenberg

Eric, want to talk about the real facts? The case was dismissed without prejudice as stated but you jerked around and got a new date. If you had shown up when the 1st one was scheduled, it would be all over but you ignored the time given to you by the D.A. Then all would know all the facts already and your personal attack on me would have not been necessary for reporting the facts as they were when posted.

I find it interesting you are trying your "case" on the internet and not waiting for SchUSA or the courts to issue their decisions as Mr. Hanrahan is before he says anything, if he even bothers to do so. Since the judge has never heard any of the case nor seen any of the film, will you explain how he determined Mr. Hanrahan was guilty but you got him to delay everything until after the AWDA Championship in Gadsden as you have stated on several boards? If that is true, why is there even a trial instead of a sentencing?

I see you still refuse to post the permission letter signed by the owner you claim you have but have never produced because there was none. Why don't you post a copy of the letter the landowner wrote you and Central that said you were trespassing the day of the trial?

Instead of proving your case which would be easy to do by posting the approval letter or maybe any endorsement of any insurance policy as requested earlier, you go on the internet and attack people who disagree with you when it would be easy for you to prove them wrong by posting the owner written approval letter you say you have. When the July 31 trial is over (the Sept. date has been moved) and the civil trial following a week later, we shall see who has the real facts. I will be back to give the results of both. Will you?

Carl, while you're discussing facts - it certainly appears in the the video that Gary drove over tracks during a trial.
Nothing changes that.

yep, and that is the only fact that I am concerned about as a USA member. Did another member intentionally disrupt a trial or not?

 Quote: Will Rambeau

Carl, while you're discussing facts - it certainly appears in the the video that Gary drove over tracks during a trial.
Nothing changes that.

Nothing does but I believe it's also a violation to hold a trial where one is trespassing so there is also that fault. Interesting that no one seems to care the trial shouldn't have been held there and see any fault that it was.

I won't get into the court case claims Eric has made against Mr. Hanrahan since that will be heard on July 31, as now scheduled, and it's best to wait until the court rules. However, review the tapes again and see if you see any threats Mr. Hanrahan made against Eric where he threatened to harm Eric. When the case is over, then we can discuss those charges

You are right I don't care if the trial was held improperly or not, if people that are privy to that information care, they should file a complaint with USA.

I do care that we have someone that it appears RAN OVER LAID TRACKS. I mean, come on, how childish is that?

I do care that USA seems to be dragging their feet on it and looking for any excuse not to sanction someone for DISRUPTING A TRIAL.

I do care that one more time it appears that the good old boy network is alive, well and kicking.

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You are right I don't care if the trial was held improperly or not, if people that are privy to that information care, they should file a complaint with USA.

I do care that we have someone that it appears RAN OVER LAID TRACKS. I mean, come on, how childish is that?

I do care that USA seems to be dragging their feet on it and looking for any excuse not to sanction someone for DISRUPTING A TRIAL.

I do care that one more time it appears that the good old boy network is alive, well and kicking.

Interesting reply. Maybe a club was trespassing but that is not something to be condemmed even though it may be in violation of the rules-WOW. Guess if I form a club I can go have my tracking phase where ever I want and never have to get written permission or insure the landowner. That's nice to know.


As far as USA, Perhaps they are doing what all should be doing. Instead of jumping to conclusions based upon a film someone posted (has it been edited in any way? Not saying it was but simply asking) and internet comments by Eric is gather ALL the facts, review them in depth, get any questions or gray areas cleared up, and then issue a decision. For instance you said it appears he ran over the laid tracks and a decision cannot be made on what appears to be but what is. That's what the BOI and maybe the Board has to do and that takes a while. I'm sure you want them to make a correct decision no matter your personal feelings or conclusions. I know I do in the interest of a sport I became involved in only six months or so ago. As a new member, I trust them to make the right decision when they have ALL the facts.

Carl, it almost sounds like you're saying two wrongs make a right.

Interesting.