Connie Sutherland wrote 05/24/2011 08:32 PM Re: How do you teach a dominant dog... pushy pup [Re: Cindy Shepard ] #334256 - 05/24/2011 08:32 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: cindy shepard Ed's prong explanation Ah, there it is! Thanks. eta I think Cheryl recapped it perfectly: It opens very easily. The video shows how easily the two kinds of quick-release collars open. LB stopped selling them because of that problem. QUOTE: "After talking her for a walk with the prong collar and seeing how easy it can fail and come apart convinced me to not use them." And the video demonstrates the ease with which they open accidentally.
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Jane Jasper wrote 05/24/2011 09:12 PM Re: How do you teach a dominant dog... pushy pup [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #334264 - 05/24/2011 09:12 PM
Jane Jasper Webboard User Reg: 05-19-2011 Posts: 92 Loc: northern NM Offline	Ah, OK. That would be a wreck waiting to happen. Thanks. ;o) Crochet... FAIL!
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Connie Sutherland wrote 05/24/2011 09:29 PM Re: How do you teach a dominant dog... pushy pup [Re: Jane Jasper ] #334267 - 05/24/2011 09:29 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Many folks use a DD collar as backup for any prong collar.
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Kelly Byrd wrote 05/24/2011 09:38 PM Re: How do you teach a dominant dog... pushy pup [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #334271 - 05/24/2011 09:38 PM
Kelly Byrd Webboard User Reg: 07-28-2010 Posts: 2249 Loc: Tacoma, WA Offline	If you don't feel you'll need a live ring on a prong, http://www.dogequipment.com/products/COLLARS-training-Herm_Sprenger_Stainless_Steel_Prong_Collar%20-%20Quick_Release.html could be a good option.
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Tracy Collins wrote 05/25/2011 09:26 AM Re: How do you teach a dominant dog... pushy pup [Re: Kelly Byrd ] #334313 - 05/25/2011 09:26 AM
Tracy Collins Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2008 Posts: 1917 Loc: St. Louis, Missouri Offline	Quote: kelly byrd If you don't feel you'll need a live ring on a prong, http://www.dogequipment.com/products/COLLARS-training-Herm_Sprenger_Stainless_Steel_Prong_Collar%20-%20Quick_Release.html could be a good option. The collar pictured in Kelly's link above is the kind I use and was referring to. Compare to: http://www.amazon.com/Pet-Supply-Imports-Training-Release/dp/tags-on-product/B0009YUFMK Note the "clothespin" style quick-release snap on this collar--which I completely agree is too easily unsnapped and I would not use this collar at all--certainly not without a back-up collar in place. The other one (Kelly's link) has a quite secure metal snap buckle (or so it has been in my experience using this collar on my dogs). No collar is 100% safe, but there's a world of difference between these two styles. JMO. Cinco | Jack | Fanny | Ellie | Chip | Deacon
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Lynne Barrows wrote 05/25/2011 10:10 AM Re: How do you teach a dominant dog... pushy pup [Re: Tracy Collins ] #334319 - 05/25/2011 10:10 AM
Lynne Barrows Webboard User Reg: 09-22-2007 Posts: 2531 Loc: S. Florida Offline	I think the takeaway is that with any prong collar, you must use a backup, whether it's a dominant dog collar or a well-built coupler (not plastic) that goes from the prong to the dog's flat collar... (I will say I'm sorry to see the quick-release ones not available. I've used the Sprenger one for 3 years and never had an issue, but I typically don't give strong corrections, either. I can see why it's an accident waiting to happen...)
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Kelly Byrd wrote 05/25/2011 10:22 PM Re: How do you teach a dominant dog... pushy pup [Re: Lynne Barrows ] #334438 - 05/25/2011 10:22 PM
Kelly Byrd Webboard User Reg: 07-28-2010 Posts: 2249 Loc: Tacoma, WA Offline	http://www.activedogs.com/herm-sprenger-stainless-buckle.html Is the type I use currently, but mine also has a sliding nylon 'live ring'. It's kinda weird, and I can't find a link for it currently, but I REALLY like the buckle, as it locks.
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