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[Re: john axe ]
#341828 - 08/16/2011 06:59 PM |
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Re: Marker Training it's not for me
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#341835 - 08/16/2011 08:59 PM |
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Sharon, thats not really what I'm getting at. Its more what Anne is saying, just not as direct. John doesnt have a clue what marker training even is. Reading what he has said, I bet he spent 2 minutes looking into it, ran out of patience, and decided it was nothing but theory and he knows better.
i forgot the food she didn't want to listen i took her out and reinforced the sit she knowa what it is now.
John's thin skin can't stand "Pet owners" having an opinion,
i now you believe in it but the proof is the scores what was your last ob scores in schutzhund?
even though this is a problem unrelated to any sport he may have been involved in a couple decades ago. Its a basic dog owner problem any member of the forum is qualified to voice an opinion on.
But really, he can't make up his mind what really does matter,
no disrespect to bob 2 sch titled dogs is nothing .marker training i don't care for it.
That thin skin is in conflict.
anyone can talk dog training everyone your ob scores not someone else yours? i see your from st louis if you passed sch in either the usa or dvg club in that area you did a great job,
Uh oh, Bob has scores,,,,,uhhhhh.
if you tell me i'm wrong, you should at least list your qualifications. like i said. any one can give dog training advice.
But everyone else,don't you question me unless you've got some titles. I would just like to see John admit he doesnt know what he's talking about, in spite of his qualifications (uh huh). And also John, I don't train my dog with markers either.
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Re: Marker Training it's not for me
[Re: Anne Jones ]
#341840 - 08/16/2011 09:29 PM |
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the only dogs to impress me w/ markers is mr ellis dog and his assisant linsey cindy's dog as well. the others in the video i personally wouldn't spend the time . the reason i tend to dismiss people is. everyone is a dog trainer, the dentist, the person at the gas station, visitors at the state fair, you name or even one dog wonders. don't judge my training unless you have seen me train. i believe my dog and i are in a pay per view of a berhard Mannel seminar mr frawley filmed 20 yrs ago. if it was filmed in columbia mo. at SCH USA then president jerry Slavens home
2 days ago the board was slow today 8 pages you guys are passionate about your training i train differently my dogs are very happy i'm not going to change.
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Re: Marker Training it's not for me
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#341849 - 08/16/2011 10:08 PM |
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the only dogs to impress me w/ markers is mr ellis dog
John,
You could learn a lot from Michael Ellis and the most important lessons have nothing to do with dog training. He is open minded, non judgemental and respectful to all trainers no matter what their skill level or goals. Emulate that and perhaps you will have greater success.
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Re: Marker Training it's not for me
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#341851 - 08/16/2011 10:31 PM |
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Your right Sheila, i use to pride myself in being open minded got old, set in my ways. do the old ways work? sure. is there a better way probably. do i want to change ? no lack of patience with dogs? no. people? yes, if i don't here a least 10 times a day how someone's dog will save then, he's the smartest etc. somethings wrong .even my dentist who has never trained a dog was explaining it to his dental assistant lol, probably need a vacation away from dogs even in retirement i get dog calls every day. i told the new trainer if you don't know make it up (only a joke) sheila dont want any higher sucess i was paid to do my hobby doesnt get any better thanks for the advice john
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Re: Marker Training it's not for me
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#341853 - 08/16/2011 10:49 PM |
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I like the sound of that  dont want any higher sucess i was paid to do my hobby doesnt get any better thanks for the advice
I wasn't talking about dogs :wink:
And heck 56 is not old! And I always make up training as I go...whatever works. 
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Re: Marker Training it's not for me
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#341855 - 08/16/2011 10:51 PM |
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Getting set in our ways is not age related it is attitude related. I am surprised that you felt a need to tell us you don't want to use marker training. I am also surprised that someone with your qualifications is not able to manage your pup and then belittle all of us who work hard everyday to try new things and manage our dogs, train them (and ourselves) and learn to be better handlers on a day to day basis. I certainly do not need anyone to have titled a dog or progressed to nth level of formal recognition to be able to share the wisdom of what I learned TODAY and what I hope someone can benefit from. I appreciate sharing what we have learned, not snobbish attitudes that reveal a closed mind.
Yup. Got a rise out of me. And I am an inexperienced handler working with a handful of dog. I hate to think what techniques you would use on Jethro to 'get him to mind'.
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#341856 - 08/16/2011 10:56 PM |
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2 days ago the board was slow today 8 pages you guys are passionate about your training
HeeHee.
2 days ago was Sunday. Most of us Schutzhund'ers were out training dogs...
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Re: Marker Training it's not for me
[Re: Kelly Byrd ]
#341860 - 08/16/2011 11:12 PM |
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John, I titled at the WDA club in St. Peters Missouri. Thunder's CDX was at three different show in the area.
I haven't been there in a couple of years now but here is the club web site. I left before they started the video thing but there are plenty of pics of Thunder in both the trial pics and previous club dog pics. http://www.rwdc.org
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Re: Marker Training it's not for me
[Re: Kelly Byrd ]
#341863 - 08/16/2011 11:20 PM |
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i don't want to use it. i don't like all the yes, yes, yes it's not me, can't do it. just because someone doesn't use marker training doesn't mean they're a dog beater i probably use food/ praise as much as anyone. the deal with my pup once again i was going to try to train her with MT with no leash corrections . i corrected her with lite tug on the leash she knew what sit means i probably left out a lot of details due to typing skills. . as far as your dogs. they don't look like they need training i like the terrier
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