And when I had the titers done they weren't acceptable. It takes reason, it also takes checking the available information. As I have stated , I don't vaccinate my cats at all, haven't for a long time. There is no need to.

The idea that I am "blindly following" a vet is just not true. By the same token, I didn't "blindly follow" anybody else either. I checked the titers. The idea that people will jump on the band wagon based on untested recomendations, and not do the titers puts their dogs at risk. Because they didn't do their home work. These diseases are killers. Without the immunity a dog is susceptable to the disease. If you don't want to vaccinate, check the titers, don't just figure that Dr. So and So says it isn't necessary. That is blindly following the crowd, without the requsite information.

Richard, you quack. lol What do you do for a living, I have read the lame profile, but what does that mean?

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Van Camp,

It crossed the tracks after I left...I was always told I was from the wrong side of the tracks. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Ok, what happened to my debate??? Are we breeding weaker immuned dogs? You have an overvaccianted dog. It has a weak immune system. You then breed it. We now take our new puppy from weaker immuned parents and vaccinate it. Does this in itself create weaker dogs?

Or, based on the genetic...the vaccine weeds out the weaker immuned dog...then it is not bred. Like the Dane. It was 'healthy'. If it was bred would it have passed a genetic defect along? Do the vaccines actually help with natural selection?

So from what you're saying, you can have a dog with bad genetics come from a perfectly good breeding where all the other puppies have good genetics. Yes, I believe this. You can only stack the odds in your favor so much. The 'genetics' god will step in and help. Use a litter of puppies...say you test them for K-9. What is the difference between the pups. Why would only one or two be able to be a K-9. Each pup has a different genetic makeup. Take stud dogs, from the same litter. One is a fantastic producer, the next average. They have different genetic makeup.

OK, we are up to 80 something posts on this thread. Is Captain Correction or one of our other super hero moderators gonna close this soon?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Hey Todd,
To reply to your last post, it's my understanding that a dog is only as good genetically as the weakest or worst puppy in the litter he came from.(don't know where I heard this but it makes sense) Maybe you should start a new thread on this topic, it's a good one.

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