Re: Doggie day care and dominance
[Re: Jim Nash ]
#204145 - 08/02/2008 05:45 PM |
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sorry howard, and anyone else, again. the majority of K9 handlers i have encounter on the job or else where, well its an image, not a passion,
IMO, you have a dog, hes your friend your partner your companion, your buddy your backupand and you his, you care for it ,you love it ,hell, even let them sleep with you on occasion. yes its a job and they need to be focused and on tract, but most dont treat them like that or have the passion for what it really means to be a K9 officer,
and howard weve all seen how law enforcement can go to someones head. politics play a mean role up north, you have connections you get a hooked up, thats what they call it, a hook up, somthing easy, kick back and relax, iv seen it, witnessed it, makes me pissed. im not saying all dept. but all arent what the public thinks.
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Re: Doggie day care and dominance
[Re: michael hubert ]
#204146 - 08/02/2008 05:52 PM |
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Sincere apologies to Howard and Jim and every other PSD trainer and handler that this kind of blanket-statement crap was posted here.
It won't happen again.
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Re: Doggie day care and dominance
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#204160 - 08/02/2008 07:01 PM |
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Michael,
I have about had it with you.
I think it's time you move on. You insult people and talk about training methods that are old school and reflect a lack of experience. I don't know if you post when you have been drinking or you just enjoy pissing people off.
It's your choice. One more stupid post and I'll block you. Trust me, I will have the last word here to and it will end up on the search engines. So either shut up and read for awhile or think before you write stupid crap.
Ed
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Re: Doggie day care and dominance
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#204163 - 08/02/2008 07:16 PM |
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No Need to apologize Connie. People say ignorant things and must be held personally accountable. The writing is on the wall {Ed's), so we'll see what happens. One can stay in the dark, or open their eyes and see the light. Whatever choice Mike makes will soley be his.
Like I said in an earlier post...adults make decisions; hopefully they're good ones. As pissed as I am about the statement he made...and his lame excuse, It's not really worth getting bent out of shape about any longer. There will always be people about that piss us off. 99% of the time they go away and the bad taste fades....all except that Chaos girl :-0, I still get a chuckle out of her.
Howard
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Re: Doggie day care and dominance
[Re: Howard Knauf ]
#204166 - 08/02/2008 07:32 PM |
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Wow. I'm glad Ed got here before I did.
Wow.
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Re: Doggie day care and dominance
[Re: michael hubert ]
#204181 - 08/02/2008 09:08 PM |
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the majority of K9 handlers i have encounter on the job or else where, well its an image, not a passion,
IMO, you have a dog, hes your friend your partner your companion, your buddy your backupand and you his, you care for it ,you love it ,hell, even let them sleep with you on occasion. yes its a job and they need to be focused and on tract, but most dont treat them like that or have the passion for what it really means to be a K9 officer,
public thinks.
michael, you're a low level wannabe that runs a doggie daycare center - which is the bottom feeding of dog training.......and you want to diss K9 handlers?
You're not qualified to carry those handler's training bags, much less make comments about them.
I have no doubt that the majority of LEO's that you've encountered in your life are secondary to you being pulled you over for speeding.
You don't know *squat* about the world of Police Canines, please stop making these chronically *stupid* comments about stuff you know *ZERO* about.
And when you post "IMO".....your opinion is not backed up by facts, or experience or knowledge.
You write about "passion", but you're running a doggy daycare center...please, shut the hell up and stop your inane and insulting comments!
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Re: Doggie day care and dominance
[Re: Howard Knauf ]
#204182 - 08/02/2008 09:10 PM |
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Howard,
I want you to know that everyone on this board is right behind you and other K9 officers. You certainly have our supports especially mine too.
All I can say about rudeness is that
"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." ~Eric Hoffer
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Re: Doggie day care and dominance
[Re: michael hubert ]
#204195 - 08/02/2008 10:13 PM |
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Michael, I posted this on another training thread before you made the comments about Police K9 Handlers. I don't think you have had a chance to read it yet so here it is.
Michael H. ,
Upon reading several of your comments on this board lately you seem like a guy who has a love for dogs and K9 training .
BUT , some of the things you have been advocating are potentially dangerous .
When given information on why what you are doing is potentially dangerous , from several knowledgable people on this board, you blow it off.
I'll be direct . You haven't had problems with the risky behavior you subject your dogs to because you have been lucky . It is painfully obvious to me you are an inexperienced dog trainer, and the things you have been warned about, especially in regards to your doggy daycare, will come to haunt you .
Frankly, with some of your responses to some of the members of this board, I don't know why you are still here . I can only guess they can see you obviously love dogs and are eager to learn more about K9 training and they feel there is hope for you . I see a little of that too. I just think you are moving into certain areas of K9 training way too fast .
PLEASE , slow down , take time and read through more of the old discussions on this board , read more of the training articles on this website. Study else where via books and with reputable trainers , work with more dogs , reevaluate what you are doing and PLEASE make sure you have enough knowledge and experiance on a topic before you comment on it .
As for your blanket statement about Police K9 Handlers . Since I have been a Police Officer I've seen one of our best handlers shot and killed along with his K9 , I've seen another K9 shot and killed upon locating a homicide suspect who had tied an elderly man to a tree and shot him in the head . Another of our handlers was stabbed puncturing a lung and hitting an artery while trying to take a 6'8'' , 300 pound suspect armed with a samari sword, into custody that his K9 partner had just apprehended. We've also had another K9 stabbed and lastyear had another shot while pursuing a suspect .
I've seen what these sacrifices have done to their families ,community and fellow officers . These sacrifices are made by K9 Officers and Police Officers around the country all the time .
I myself have spent lots of time as a patient in the emergency room after being injured in the course of my K9 duties . I lost my marriage due to my commitment to K9 work . Something I hope my 3 kids and ex-wife will forgive me for someday .
You've insulted alot of Police Officers who have made the ultimate sacrafice for their community.
You talk about passion and commitment . You have no idea what you are talking about.
I hope they let you stick around because I think that's the only way you will learn how off base you been on many subjects . If they ban you you will only move off to more bad training and continue on with your biased beliefs .
Oh and for the record;
#1 Politics are a part of almost every job .
#2 Sometimes the the goldenboy/girl gets picked sometimes the most qualified get picked .
#3 The qualified don't pack up their bags and quit if they don't get something they want . They work harder until they eventually get it .
and last but not least;
#4 I NEVER let my K9 partner sleep with me.
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Re: Doggie day care and dominance
[Re: Jim Nash ]
#204197 - 08/02/2008 10:19 PM |
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and last but not least;
#4 I NEVER let my K9 partner sleep with me.
That whole post was moving and enough to put tears on anyone's face.........instead, now I have milk on my shirt.
Was NOT expecting that at all. Little warning would have been nice.:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Gonna go change now.
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Re: Doggie day care and dominance
[Re: Michael_Wise ]
#204200 - 08/02/2008 10:45 PM |
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and last but not least;
#4 I NEVER let my K9 partner sleep with me.
That whole post was moving and enough to put tears on anyone's face.........instead, now I have milk on my shirt.
Was NOT expecting that at all. Little warning would have been nice.:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Gonna go change now.
<snort> Uhhhh DITTO...as I WAS wiping a tear and sniffling the last one made me smile big.
Thank you for sharing that Jim. Definitely food for thought for some and eye openers for others.
You have my utmost respect....I can promise you that.
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