Thanks for the laughs! Please OP, come back and share your wisdom with us! I really, really, really want to see the videos! Is the body language a happy dance? Or wagging a forefinger in admonishment? I tried praise only, but I couldn't run Jethro down to praise him when he was bolting across the field to 'meet' a little white dog.

NO PRAISE!

ANd no treats!

"Body language" only!!!

I'm Jillian Blesser, I just haven't been on so long I was unable to use my old account. Anyway, upon reviewing my origanal post and the "responses" I still agree with myself. I've been training dogs for 14 years now. I have only been biten once, but it was by a Chow when I was 5. I must be doing something correctly. I have rehabilitated aggressive Pits (which is some of the most rewarding dog work I've done), I have trained countless pets whose energy level and reactive nature was going to land them in a shelter. I have done most of this work for free. The only benefit is knowing they get a second, third or fourth chance. So attack me if you will, but ask the judges what they want to see. A dog who hesitates out of uncertainty and fear of correction or one who is so happy to work that his tail is carried high and has a spring in his step? I don't do Schutzhund, so we are clear. I do, however, do dectection of many sorts, rehabilitation and lots of obedience.
I know adding pain (pinch collar) during moments of excitement or aggression makes the problem worse. Redirection and going back laying the ground work to find what it is that makes a dog WANT to work may take longer but the effects will stay. Pinch collars do give a person who lacks physical strength more confidence that if the dog lunges they have a chance at slowing them down. I don't see any real benefits otherwise. New research in dog behavior has shown motivational as oppossed to compulsion is more successful.

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NO PRAISE!

ANd no treats!

"Body language" only!!!

My poor dog... with the shape my body is in at the moment, if he has to depend on this "body language" for his reward, well, let's just say a correction with a prong would be much, much easier. LOL!

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I'm Jillian Blesser, I just haven't been on so long I was unable to use my old account. Anyway, upon reviewing my origanal post and the "responses" I still agree with myself. I've been training dogs for 14 years now. I have only been biten once, but it was by a Chow when I was 5. I must be doing something correctly. I have rehabilitated aggressive Pits (which is some of the most rewarding dog work I've done), I have trained countless pets whose energy level and reactive nature was going to land them in a shelter. I have done most of this work for free. The only benefit is knowing they get a second, third or fourth chance. So attack me if you will, but ask the judges what they want to see. A dog who hesitates out of uncertainty and fear of correction or one who is so happy to work that his tail is carried high and has a spring in his step? I don't do Schutzhund, so we are clear. I do, however, do dectection of many sorts, rehabilitation and lots of obedience.
I know adding pain (pinch collar) during moments of excitement or aggression makes the problem worse. Redirection and going back laying the ground work to find what it is that makes a dog WANT to work may take longer but the effects will stay. Pinch collars do give a person who lacks physical strength more confidence that if the dog lunges they have a chance at slowing them down. I don't see any real benefits otherwise. New research in dog behavior has shown motivational as oppossed to compulsion is more successful.

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Four dogs wearing prong collars walking nicely together. See below. I rest my case.