Duane Hull Webboard User Reg: 09-23-2011
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Quote: Natalie Rynda
I raised my daughter for 19 years. That makes me more experienced than someone with no kids that read a ton about it?
Absolutely! I know more than a few people that think they know something about raising kids, but they haven't done it. No book can relate what it means to stay up all night with a sick baby and still go to work in the morning, or tell you how to get school clothes when your budget is maxed. No amount of reading can replace those experiences.
I don't care how much you have read; you don't know very much about training dogs. You came here saying so, yet you have been arguing with experienced people that you solicited for advice. I have been trying to be patient, but it's starting to look as if you're trolling the boards.
Natalie Rynda Webboard User Reg: 10-01-2013
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I don't know if I agree with that. I might have real life experience with MY daughter only but a person that studied kids, their psychology, how to be a parent and many other things (I don't know what they're called in English) would've done a better job.
Real life experience counts for something but you can't discount theory. I would've done a much better job with my daughter if I knew some things I know now.
In any case, no experience doesn't mean no brain. I will listen to experienced people about how to train my dog (still keeping in mind that experience doesn't mean they're right) but arguing about dogs being hardwired doesn't need experience, it needs reading.
You weren't here for the thousands of years of domesticating, you read about it. Why couldn't I have read abt it as well?
Natalie Rynda Webboard User Reg: 10-01-2013
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ETA for your ETA, feel free to ignore me.
If trolling is asking things that people don't care abt or can't answer then I'm trolling.
We are not talking about training (where I don't have experience but still have questions on things I read by people that have experience), we are talking about dogs being hardwired to work with us and that somehow means they need corrections.
So what experience would qualify me to answer this question?
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Quote: Mara Jessup
Natalie, Go get a cat and a goldfish. Try training them for 6 months as you train your dog. Then you might understand what I mean about dogs being hardwired to want to work with us. Or why don't you start a new thread and explain to the forum how dogs don't have any predisposition to work with a pack leader (i.e, us)
Mara, I said this before but it got lost in text. This is not against you personally, Duane felt the need to bring you into the conversation.
I have a cat that's hardwired to follow me and will cry by my door while I'm at work.
I have a turtle that's trained to eat out of her tank. Research that and see how many turtle keepers have that.
I still don't understand how this means that whales don't need corrections because they're not hardwired to work for us. Wouldn't it be the other way around?
I can't speak on pack leaders. All I know is that there are a lot of people that don't think dogs should be looked at from the wolves behavior. And therefore pack leaders don't apply.
I'm not sure on this yet so I can't say
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It has been a long time since this thread had anything to do with its title ("Separate Sit and Down").
If someone wants to start a thread on theory, with the word "theory" in the title, feel free. (The titles are meant to guide those who who need help to the right threads. People who want to to are very welcome to debate theory.)
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