Mel Woolley Webboard User Reg: 07-21-2005
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Hi Andrew, There is little more appealing to a dog's pallet than fresh green horse poop (yes, even frozen "poopsicles" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />... We have both horses & dogs at our facility too, however we are not generally working schH on the horse pasture. That said we do use the riding ring & grass flat without much difficulty. Most of the dogs show great interest when just out for a stroll or socialization time on the field, but very little interest in the manure when 'in drive'. I recommend teaching the dogs a 'leave it' command. I would suggest that if your horses are doing well with grazing rotations on 1 acre, you may consider sacrificing an area on your new 5 acre lot to use soley for the dog work. Another consideration, if you are living in a wet area you may find the horses will 'punch up' the ground too much to make it a safe & useable area for dog training. If you need to have both the dogs & horses sharing a field you may consider tile drainage.
I do have a smaller area for routine training, but for trial exercises I think we'll be sharing space.
I expect that the horses will have some further grazing rotation on adjacent land, so they may only get a few weeks a year on the intended schutzhund field.
Here in the US, a standard Schutzhund competition field is an American football field (120 yards x 55 yards) which is 1.36 acres. In Europe, I believe the standard Schutzhund competition field is an International football (soccer) field (120 meters x 90 meters) which is 2.66 acres.
When you add the blinds (which are set on each side-line), you should probably add about 10 yards/meters to each side of the field for clearance. And of course, many (if not most) local clubs have training fields and club trial fields that may be somewhat smaller or irregularly shaped <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> .
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Our training field is right next to where I keep my horse. Not a single dog has ever gone over for a snack <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
But warned... if you have an active club, don't expect your field to stay nice for long. We live in TX, where it doesn't rain that often, but when it does, you can expect our field to look like crap for weeks and take even longer to recover. Even with no rain to speak of for months at a time, it is still always patchy, uneven and nasty looking LOL!
Seriously though, I've seen several dogs fail tracking due to stopping for some "self-serve" on cow & horse pastures . Needless to say, no one is lining up for " doggie kisses" after that happens.
A guy I trained with booby-trapped several cow pies with mouse traps and let his dog literally go into avoidance over them ( after several self corrections there <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> )
It worked for him, so it might be a solution to that problem. It was a bit "messy" to set up those traps though.......EWWWWW!
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Re: Schutzhund field size / horse odours
... We have both horses & dogs at our facility too, however we are not generally working schH on the horse pasture. That said we do use the riding ring & grass flat without much difficulty. Most of the dogs show great interest when just out for a stroll or socialization time on the field, but very little interest in the manure when 'in drive'. I recommend teaching the dogs a 'leave it' command. I would suggest that if your horses are doing well with grazing rotations on 1 acre, you may consider sacrificing an area on your new 5 acre lot to use soley for the dog work. Another consideration, if you are living in a wet area you may find the horses will 'punch up' the ground too much to make it a safe & useable area for dog training. If you need to have both the dogs & horses sharing a field you may consider tile drainage. 
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