To further this question a little more from another angle. I am planning on training my pup as a ppd and I'd like to try ASR. Obvously I'm going to be training bites on legs, back uppper arm, arm pits, groin, etc. Has anyone done this type of training then gone back and attempted titling in Schutzhund. I've seen one of Ed's videos where he mentions one of Flinks's dogs is a title sch competitor and a working patrol dog. What happens if the dog decides to grab the guy's leg? Is it because in sch it's all prey and they're not serious? What if the decoy puts a little more pressure on the dog than in training? Is it possible to have a ppd trained on the full body that can compete in sch? Sch titles tend to lend a lot of credibility to breedings and stud dogs and a lot of people are familiar with these titles as opposed to ASR. I have a sch club closed to me that I'm thinking of joining, but I don't want to start down a path that will inhibit his "real" job of ppd. I also want to try and put a tracking title on him which I can obvously train for with the club. Is it ok to ask to just train OB and tracking and get an experienced ring or ppd decoy to help with the protection?
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Ok, let's try and clear this up.

First off "Is it because in sch it's all prey and they're not serious?".
A dog can be trained to a SchH title in 90% prey, but they're going to need at least a little defense to look "normal" while doing it, so it's not all prey. And some dogs take it *very* seriously ( you can spot the difference with ease )

There are a few SchH III titled dogs in ASR ( Ken Hungerford's Atos, as a prime example ) that are great ASR dogs that will bite any area of the body without a problem at all.
I've found that training leg bites on my GSD was a mistake, as he would then go after the helper's legs in SchH ( sorry Joe! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> ). So I train only for upper body bites.

Every dog will show you something different. But I don't think that training a dog in SchH will prevent a good ppd from doing it's job, as long as you do valid cross training for the ppd work.

So you would feel comfortable competing with a dog trained in pp that was focused only on the upper body?
I have no doubt a good Sch dog could be cross trained for pp or Asr I more concerned about doing both from the beginning. I've never trained a sport dog before and I'm concerned that even if he was focused on the upper body he may grab an armpit or the back as opposed to the sleeve especially if the decoy put a little more pressure or didn't make an easy presentation. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />