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Btw the lines.. the dog in question had a normal flat collar on and the correction was administrated by grabbing the dogs scruff and pushing it into a down... is that asking for it? For the rest, this is a really sweet and friendly dog, it's strange to see another side of her. I'm wondering if the dog is maybe too srong for my friend, I would hate to see this situation engulf. The dog is kindof aloof towards it's family, likes to be alone but on the other hand can sometimes drive for attention. Man, dogs are complicated, or is it people that complicate their dogs? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Just my 2 cents...

I think a lot of people would be of the opinion that grabbing a dog by the scruff of the neck and driving it to the ground is asking for it. I've been in situations where I felt it was the best option though so I wouldn't condemn the practice totally. Depends on the dog, the handler, and the situation.

If you have a dog with weak nerves, dominance issues, or any other temperamental issues, it's probably a good idea to make corrections as "hands off" as possible at least for the time being. Over the last year or so, I've taken a little softer approach to handling dogs and I find it works better. When you regularly put your hands on a dog to give it a correction, I think it hurts the bond a little. I've been using e-collars for about 6 months and find that once the dog understands how it works, e-collars work better than any other method I've found and allow me to give the dog a correction without the dog feeling as if I'm throwing my weight around or acting unnecessarily aggressive towards it. It also reduces the emotional factor that Cindy mentioned earlier. Whether I've had a bad day or not, a level 2 stimulation on my e-collar is always the same. Don't get me wrong, if one of my dogs wasn't wearing his e-collar and he got out of line, I wouldn't hesitate to grab him by the scruff of the neck. I just try to avoid situations where I might have to resort to that.

All of the other comments you've gotten so far though make a lot of sense. Could just be a sharp dog that is quick to display aggressive behaviors to cover up his insecurities or could be that you're just crossing the line between discomfort and pain and the dog is defending himself.