John E. Araman wrote 04/12/2006 08:45 AM Mouthiness in the Arms #103996 - 04/12/2006 08:45 AM
John E. Araman Webboard User Reg: 02-02-2005 Posts: 220 Loc: Offline	Hello everyone, I need some advice on something.. When I first began drive building work and "into my arms", my pup was very calm and hard gripping. I've noticed recently that he still has a calm grip when he's holding something, and won't chew while running. But, whenever, I call him into my arms he gets chewy. 1. Handler issue.. I found out that my brother was doing drive work with him while I was at work.. He used to snatch the tug "too often" I presume.. 2. He's also began teething, but his drive is still crazy and will bite like hell. (I'm just letting him have the tug) after he bites. (I don't dare jerk it out of his mouth). What I'm doing now is just calling him into my arms even when he doesn't have a tug/ball and calmly pet him.. He seems relaxed when in my arms.. I'm trying (while in my arms) to give him a tug to hold on to.. HE CHEWS.. Any ideas.. or recommendation is appreciated... PS. My brother is supposed to be walking my pup and not building drive.. I MADE THAT CLEAR.. Oh. well ...
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Ed Frawley wrote 04/12/2006 11:49 AM Re: Mouthiness in the Arms [Re: John E. Araman ] #103997 - 04/12/2006 11:49 AM
Ed Frawley Administrator Reg: 07-11-2001 Posts: 2112 Loc: Offline	You are doing the right thing - have the dog come into your arms with nothing - if he stand calmly doing that then he wont doi it when he has a prey item. When you start to do drive work again - bring hin into you arms then let him riun again without taking it away. DO WAY WAY ore of this - teaching the OUT is EASY WEASY EASY - getting a dog to trust you and have a good bond is hard. Frawley@leerburg.com http://www.leerburg.com
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John E. Araman wrote 04/13/2006 01:16 AM Re: Mouthiness in the Arms [Re: Ed Frawley ] #103998 - 04/13/2006 01:16 AM
John E. Araman Webboard User Reg: 02-02-2005 Posts: 220 Loc: Offline	Thanks Ed, I'm keeping the Aus to the minimum.. Maybe once every 4/5 days.. And then.. I'm using another tug to swap.. No compulsion whatsoever.. So I'll just keep on doing what I'm doing and hope it gets better.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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jason w penwell wrote 04/13/2006 09:43 AM Re: Mouthiness in the Arms [Re: Ed Frawley ] #103999 - 04/13/2006 09:43 AM
jason w penwell Webboard User Reg: 11-10-2005 Posts: 138 Loc: italy Offline	dang it ED! let us answer these questions. you know, we like to show off things you have taught us through your videos lol. i am living proof. i did the same thing, outted way to often until i watched ED's videos. now no mouthing. he is good at training. i will vouch for that anytime anywhere. Jason Penwell USAF Fire Protection
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John E. Araman wrote 04/14/2006 04:39 AM Re: Mouthiness in the Arms [Re: jason w penwell ] #104000 - 04/14/2006 04:39 AM
John E. Araman Webboard User Reg: 02-02-2005 Posts: 220 Loc: Offline	Quote: dang it ED! let us answer these questions. you know, we like to show off things you have taught us through your videos lol. i am living proof. i did the same thing, outted way to often until i watched ED's videos. now no mouthing. he is good at training. i will vouch for that anytime anywhere. good point.. I do have Ed's vids.. My problem was different, however, I rarely/barely give him an OUT.. I'm sure this won't be too difficult to fix..
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jason w penwell wrote 04/14/2006 07:47 AM Re: Mouthiness in the Arms [Re: John E. Araman ] #104001 - 04/14/2006 07:47 AM
jason w penwell Webboard User Reg: 11-10-2005 Posts: 138 Loc: italy Offline	i agree with ed. i think your brother messed your dog up. all the pulling and outing dog your dog nervous. i also agree that your are on the right path and it shouldnt be hard to fix Jason Penwell USAF Fire Protection
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Cindy Easton Rhodes wrote 04/14/2006 08:35 AM Re: Mouthiness in the Arms [Re: jason w penwell ] #104002 - 04/14/2006 08:35 AM
Cindy Easton Rhodes Moderator Reg: 07-14-2001 Posts: 2069 Loc: Wisconsin Offline	Don't forget the teething! Even dogs with crazy drive sometimes chew when they clamp down on something if their mouth is sore. I may suggest doing more 'into my arms' with nothing in the dog's mouth right now, and when he is done teething go back to using the tug or ball. All it takes for SOME pups is to experience something unpleasant one time, to make a lasting impression. Cindy cindyr@leerburg.com
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John E. Araman wrote 04/26/2006 01:05 AM Re: Mouthiness in the Arms [Re: Cindy Easton Rhodes ] #104003 - 04/26/2006 01:05 AM
John E. Araman Webboard User Reg: 02-02-2005 Posts: 220 Loc: Offline	Ok here's the update on my pup. He's NOT chewing in the arms ANYMORE <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> He hasn't finished teething, but what I'm doing is; teasing him with the ball /tug and when he wins.. he gets to keep it.. I don't snatch it away.. He's almost ready for Focus work !! Regards, and thanks everyone.
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