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Andy Andrews wrote 07/15/2006 12:01 PM Sit Means Sit: An Accident Waiting To Happen #109730 - 07/15/2006 12:01 PM
Andy Andrews Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2005 Posts: 99 Loc: Offline	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9nFMVUHdRA&mode=related&search= IMO, This was a fantastically BAD idea for all involved. I think the trainer should have known better and the owner should have had ALOT more control over her dogs, either through obedience or securing them with a lead. *edit: I do give the trainer credit for having the presence of mind to break things up immediately.* Andy.
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alice oliver wrote 07/15/2006 12:10 PM Re: Sit Means Sit: An Accident Waiting To Happen [Re: Andy Andrews ] #109731 - 07/15/2006 12:10 PM
alice oliver Webboard User Reg: 09-14-2005 Posts: 843 Loc: Offline	my system only allowed me to watch the first 30 seconds or so. what happens in the rest of the video? does the pit bull get loose? i've worked my dog in very similar situations. barking dogs behind a fence are a great opportunity for distraction proofing. working Mastiff
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Daniel P. Hughes wrote 07/15/2006 12:11 PM Re: Sit Means Sit: An Accident Waiting To Happen [Re: Andy Andrews ] #109732 - 07/15/2006 12:11 PM
Daniel P. Hughes Webboard User Reg: 04-19-2005 Posts: 123 Loc: new york Offline	Just my opinion. I have pit bulls and I would not let my dogs do that for someone else to show off their dogs. I can totally see a fight out of frustration between the to pits. This person is also contributing to a possible fence fight. Disappointing. http://www.apbtmessageboard.com http://www.strongholdkennel.com Lead Follow Or get out of the way.
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Andy Andrews wrote 07/15/2006 12:19 PM Re: Sit Means Sit: An Accident Waiting To Happen [Re: alice oliver ] #109733 - 07/15/2006 12:19 PM
Andy Andrews Webboard User Reg: 10-09-2005 Posts: 99 Loc: Offline	Alice, Yes the brown and white pit bulldog got loose. But not so suddenly that neither the trainer or the owner *could* have prevented it from happening. The dog tried to jump the fence two times before it made it over on the third try. How come the trainer didn't stop the session at that point? Why didn't the owner do more than clap her hands behind her dog when it was trying to jump the fence? Andy.
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alice oliver wrote 07/15/2006 12:35 PM Re: Sit Means Sit: An Accident Waiting To Happen [Re: Andy Andrews ] #109734 - 07/15/2006 12:35 PM
alice oliver Webboard User Reg: 09-14-2005 Posts: 843 Loc: Offline	was the gsd attacked? how did they stop the pit? sorry, my system refuses to run the whole thing. since, i can't see it, what lessons do you think i should take away about distraction training in such a situation? working Mastiff
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Connie Sutherland wrote 07/15/2006 12:50 PM Re: Sit Means Sit: An Accident Waiting To Happen [Re: alice oliver ] #109735 - 07/15/2006 12:50 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: .......what lessons do you think i should take away about distraction training in such a situation? That the distractions are dogs, too --- not just the one showing his routine. Daniel's reaction was the same one I had. <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> P.S. Yes, a bit of credit for breaking things up immediately.
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Al Curbow wrote 07/15/2006 01:35 PM Re: Sit Means Sit: An Accident Waiting To Happen [Re: Andy Andrews ] #109736 - 07/15/2006 01:35 PM
Al Curbow Webboard User Reg: 06-30-2005 Posts: 974 Loc: northeast Offline	This video has been discussed already, awhile back.
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Will Rambeau wrote 07/15/2006 05:51 PM Re: Sit Means Sit: An Accident Waiting To Happen [Re: Andy Andrews ] #109737 - 07/15/2006 05:51 PM
Will Rambeau Moderator Reg: 01-25-2003 Posts: 5983 Loc: Idaho Offline	This video has been posted here and discussed in the past. The Fetz dog: http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/79673/page/25
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