I recently purchased the DvD for pet owners about e collar training. I have watched it several times but have a couple of questions. My dog has been conditioned to the collar properly. I have started the recall training and he picked it up without distraction in no time. Several Nicks and he is coming everytime without a stem. My question deals with distraction training. When I have other people in yard and he doesn't respond to command and I stem he runs to the closest person. How do I solve?? Long Line??(he starts biting on long line with stem) Also is it OK to start working on proofing the Sit and Down and loose lead walking with distraction on different days??? Or do I wait until he is totally good with the recall?
Thanks for any help.I might add that he "knows" these commands without didtractions.
How old is the dog? I would work on one thing at a time & proof that with distractions before moving onto something else. When you increase distractions, reduce time (as for downstays)& distance. Only add one thing at a time. For example: to in crease distance of recalls keep distractions to a minumun. (for example use the backyard with no one else out there). Use a long line to train the recalls with the e-collar at first letting the distance get greater over a period of time. Then go back to the beginning without the long line & only the e-collar & increase distance. When that is 100% then move onto adding distractions. Increase the level of distractions gradually while keeping the distance close. When you can add the greatest distraction that you can think of & the recall is 100% then start to increase the distance. When increasing the distance go back to lower level of distracitions again & work back up to the highest distraction with great distance. Only change one thing at a time & go slowly with the additions or your results will not be solid. Good luck. I am sure that this has also been discussed many times....do a search to get more info. Also, if he is running to someone else when stimed then he is not doing a RECALL. Biting the long line...the stem might be too high &/or he is showing frustration. I would go back to working on proofing him on the long line again for a while & then go back to the e-collar again. JMO
first how old is your dog? second, you need to back up your training to no distractions. he should recal with no nicks before you add distractions. your training should be solid before you go further. third, once yo get to that point only use light distractons the increase as training becomes solid. forth, use a leash and recall with leash plus e-collar at first. the biggest thing is not to rush the training. take your time and i think you will be happy with the results. <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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..... When you increase distractions, reduce time (as for downstays)& distance. ...... Also, if he is running to someone else when stimed then he is not doing a RECALL. Biting the long line...the stem might be too high &/or he is showing frustration. I would go back to working on proofing him on the long line again for a while & then go back to the e-collar again. JMO
I'm working on the recall now with an untrained senior foster dog. I couldn't have said it better than Jason and Anne did.
I get the sense that maybe the basic obedience needs reinforcement. As already said, distractions are added sloooooowly and gradually, and (on the recall especially, IMO), the command should be 100% before increasing distraction.
Do you have Leerburg's DVD #302, too? I really think it would help a lot to solidify the basic obedience. As Jason said, slowly building on each command works best, having it perfect at each step before adding distance or distraction, and adding those very slooooowly too.
It's not a time-waster to go slowly and methodically; it results in great training and also builds the dog's confidence (and your bond). <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
My Pup is a 6 month old German Shepherd. Let me say that I agree with your advice and will certainly back-up with his training. I wouldn't want to push him to fast or ruin my pup. I think that is where the basic question for me as a novice pet owner is.
When to move forward with training and at what pace. Most of all the video's and articles I have read or watched make things look so easy and quick to do. It seems that no one for some reason talks in terms of time. Now don't get me wrong I understand that things don't happen overnight and I am willing to spend the time. I am not looking for a quick fix. It would be helpful though to have a "general" idea of how long it generally takes to train certain things. In otherwards when to move on and to what. I mean do I work on this today and something different tomorrow etc. Are there any training schedules available anywhere??? That would be a very nice help. As I have said He knows all of the basic commands without distractions. Thanks and I hope I am making myself clear.
As I stated earlier.....work on 1 thing at a time. Don't move on to the next until that is 100%. Train the 'sit' with distance then with distractions to 100% reliability before moving onto...say the 'down' with distance then with distractions. Then train the 'recall' with distance & distractions. As far as how long it takes to get it 100%....depends on the dog, your training ability, the amount of trainings a day you can do etc. (Keep training short...with a 6 month pup I would only work about 5-7 mins at a training session several times a day) You have a young pup. Don't expect too much to soon. Don't push, the dog is very young. My female didn't do distant dounstays with great distractions at 100% dependability until she was about 15 months old or so. She was 100 % at about 1+ acre distance away with great distractions by the time she was almost 2 yrs old. This was with 5 - 6 training sessions a day at many different locations. Go S-L-O-W-l-y. Good luck. BTW this was ALL done with my dog without an e-coller. 99% of my dogs training has & still is motovational with food & toys. I have e-collars but rarely use them. Never even put one on my female until she was well over 2 yrs. old. My dogs are very responsive without them. I use them just in anticipated extreme situations & even then they are on them but rarely used. So you don't NEED an e-collare to train a dog. Goosd luck <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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