I am returning to article training again to start over. Somehow my dog became confused when articles were introduced to him. I taught these seperate from the track and when he was efficient I introduced them on the track. He would find the article , down and then proceed to crawl the rest of the track. <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> I had our training director, helper, and a dozen other people try to help me with this with no change. I laid off for three months now and am trying to return. Can a clicker be used to retrain articles on the track? If anyone has experience with this let me know. I use a clicker in his obediance with good results.
Lorelei
Keith Jenkins Webboard User Reg: 08-25-2003
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I could be wrong but it sounds like that the dog is starting to shut-down once the article is found. To me that would suggest that something "unpleasant" occured during the original teaching of the articles and it's now transfered to the track.
Keith Jenkins
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The question need sto be asked, how were you training the articles to start with???
The clicker teaches nothing. It is only a way to improve timing, which really shouldn't be an issue when you standing right there with the dog.
At this point a conditioned reinforcer probably isn't the answer so much as getting back to a primary reinforcer, or releaving the steress from a botched job of compulsion and finding a path to getting the dog back to the behavior you want and reinforcing that.
My dog in question here has a solid down. During his BH the judge applauded his down and his sit in motion. Nothing unpleasent occurred(that I know of) during the teaching of his articles and tracks. This is the puzzle for all of us.He is a soft dog in the sense he does not take corrections well and will shut down. This has improved tremendously as he has gotten older.He was doing a full Sch1 track with no articles. The problem came when articles were put on the track. Off the track and seperate was fine for the article find as well.
I have been using a clicker now the last two times for article retraining and he is responding well downing quicker at the article. I am going to do this for several training sessions until it looks like second nature to him. I will advance from there.
Any advice on retraining would be helpful.
Lorelei
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