Cheryl Gee wrote 09/22/2006 08:26 AM retrieving from water #114243 - 09/22/2006 08:26 AM
Cheryl Gee Webboard User Reg: 12-04-2001 Posts: 443 Loc: Michigan Offline	I have a female gsd that likes to swim and retrieve toys from water. I have never owned a dog before who liked to swim. My problem is geting her to bring the toy back,she would rather keep it herself and have a good run on the shore. I can not understand how to controll her actions without having a line to grab. She will not come back to me for treats to exchange with her toy.
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Michele McAtee wrote 09/22/2006 08:48 AM Re: retrieving from water [Re: Cheryl Gee ] #114244 - 09/22/2006 08:48 AM
Michele McAtee Webboard User Reg: 02-05-2006 Posts: 1121 Loc: Iowa City, Iowa Offline	IMO, Long line. Is recall to 100% away from the water? Come means come, no ifs ands or buts on that.
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Mike Arnold wrote 09/22/2006 08:58 AM Re: retrieving from water [Re: Cheryl Gee ] #114245 - 09/22/2006 08:58 AM
Mike Arnold Webboard User Reg: 07-09-2004 Posts: 1344 Loc: CNY Offline	Mike A. "I wouldn't touch that dog, son. He don't take to pettin." Hondo, played by John Wayne
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Cheryl Gee wrote 09/22/2006 09:17 AM Re: retrieving from water [Re: Cheryl Gee ] #114246 - 09/22/2006 09:17 AM
Cheryl Gee Webboard User Reg: 12-04-2001 Posts: 443 Loc: Michigan Offline	She does a good retrieve on land but could use some work. I have been training the recall on the long line and she is about 90 percent. I just want a method to use when training in the water.She is 14 months old and I think she is starting to test her limits. Would like to try the long line with her. Do I just her let swim with the line attached and grab it as she comes near to me. Do I need to use a line that floats on the water.
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Sandy Moore wrote 09/22/2006 11:34 AM Re: retrieving from water [Re: Mike Arnold ] #114247 - 09/22/2006 11:34 AM
Sandy Moore Webboard User Reg: 07-25-2006 Posts: 2665 Loc: AZ Offline	Mike, wouldn't there be a danger of the long line getting tangled in the dog's legs as it's swimming? That would seem likely as it's dog-paddling and turning?
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Sharon Poteet wrote 09/22/2006 11:58 AM Re: retrieving from water [Re: Sandy Moore ] #114248 - 09/22/2006 11:58 AM
Sharon Poteet Webboard User Reg: 12-28-2002 Posts: 33 Loc: KY/TN Offline	My Rott used to refuse to come when called in the water. He was less than a year old when he decided I couldn't make him come out of the water. Had a great recall on land but not in the water. I did the long line thing for a while, got really tired of keeping the line reeled in to avoid tangles. I decided one day to show him I COULD get to him in the water and he WOULD receive a correction for ignoring me. I let him go in with pinch collar on, no line. I let him swim for a while then I called "here", gave him a second to turn, when he did not, I jumped in and swam to him(I can swim faster than he can) and I grabbed the chain on the collar, repeated the command along with as hard a correction as I could give swimming. I swam back to shore with him, continuing to tell him "here" and with each here he got a pop. He never ignored my "here" again in the water. I swear this dog was totally shocked when he got a correction in the water!
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Mike Arnold wrote 09/22/2006 12:03 PM Re: retrieving from water [Re: Sandy Moore ] #114249 - 09/22/2006 12:03 PM
Mike Arnold Webboard User Reg: 07-09-2004 Posts: 1344 Loc: CNY Offline	Mike A. "I wouldn't touch that dog, son. He don't take to pettin." Hondo, played by John Wayne
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Sandy Moore wrote 09/22/2006 12:37 PM Re: retrieving from water [Re: Mike Arnold ] #114250 - 09/22/2006 12:37 PM
Sandy Moore Webboard User Reg: 07-25-2006 Posts: 2665 Loc: AZ Offline	"I decided against an electronic collar".... <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I agree with the recall needing to be 100%. It's just too easy for them to swim off toward a different part of the shore and run off and get lost. As both you and Sharon posted, a person needs to be ready to jump in if needed, hoping of course, it's a warm lake.
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Candi Campbell wrote 09/22/2006 02:31 PM Re: retrieving from water [Re: Sharon Poteet ] #114251 - 09/22/2006 02:31 PM
Candi Campbell Webboard User Reg: 02-06-2006 Posts: 696 Loc: San Francisco, CA Offline	Yep, you shocked the sheet out of your Rott all right <;-) How anyone can live without a dog is beyond me...
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Cheryl Gee wrote 09/22/2006 05:19 PM Re: retrieving from water [Re: Mike Arnold ] #114252 - 09/22/2006 05:19 PM
Cheryl Gee Webboard User Reg: 12-04-2001 Posts: 443 Loc: Michigan Offline	Mike,thanks for the great ideas. My dog will swim toward me but still hard to grab her collar. A harness may work better.
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