ann freier wrote 10/13/2006 09:41 PM too bonded? #115754 - 10/13/2006 09:41 PM
ann freier Webboard User Reg: 11-20-2005 Posts: 673 Loc: NE Nebraska Offline	question: an 8 mo old, DDR GSD, going to training at club, when back-tied for the first time, TD presents tug to build drive, pup sits beside me and just looks at him. won't come out to play. when i leave, behind TD w/tug, pup focuses on me for a minute, then onto tug/TD, gets into drive. i go back to pup, he stays in drive at this point, TD gives him a couple good bites. we're all good. next week, basically the same thing happens, TD advises me that the pup is too attached to me, i shouldn't do drive-building w/him at home (pup thinks all the fun comes from me and no-one else. if i'm the one w/tug at training, he's all over it). i don't have the dinero for the vids right now, so i'm hoping to tap into the VAST resources/experience on the board. i really have no one else around here to work w/the pup, training is a 4 hr. round trip, which i can afford at most 2X/month. ideas?? and thanks in advance....
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Charlie Snyder wrote 10/13/2006 11:09 PM Re: too bonded? [Re: ann freier ] #115755 - 10/13/2006 11:09 PM
Charlie Snyder Webboard User Reg: 08-02-2001 Posts: 999 Loc: Offline	Well, he is just a puppy at this point. Keep doing your drive building exercises. Hmm. 4 hrs drive. Figure 20 mpg @ 60 mph makes about 3 gal per hour or 12 gallons of gas. Throw in meals and the other incidental expenses that go with that trip and that's about the price of the four hour video, "Preparing your dog for the helper" (#310) or the two hour "Building Drive and Focus" (#101e) video. Figure you won't be training in January in Nebraska anyway. That would cover it. Or, drop a few hints to Santa-surrogate. Or, find some fool who thinks Bill Callahan can actually coach and take his money. In any case, you can probably get one of the videos. They are well worth the money. I like the Drive & Focus one myself.
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ann freier wrote 10/14/2006 10:21 AM Re: too bonded? [Re: Charlie Snyder ] #115756 - 10/14/2006 10:21 AM
ann freier Webboard User Reg: 11-20-2005 Posts: 673 Loc: NE Nebraska Offline	that all makes sense to me, charlie! think i'll just do that <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> i'm already hitting up the santa-surrogate for a good digital camera, so i'll have to go w/saved trip expenses (which you have about right, BTW). is there really any basis for the "too attached to mom" theory? if there is, what to do? i don't really see it (but then, i don't seem to see a lot of things <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />; he's a confident, outgoing pup in public, when confronted w/new things, he'll come to my side, but not fearfully, just for support from his pack leader (i think).
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Brad Trull wrote 10/17/2006 09:59 AM Re: too bonded? [Re: ann freier ] #115757 - 10/17/2006 09:59 AM
Brad Trull Webboard User Reg: 05-31-2005 Posts: 187 Loc: Indiana Offline	No, I know of no " Mommy theory " in dogs. What direction are you going with the dog , goals ????
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ann freier wrote 10/17/2006 11:42 AM Re: too bonded? [Re: Brad Trull ] #115758 - 10/17/2006 11:42 AM
ann freier Webboard User Reg: 11-20-2005 Posts: 673 Loc: NE Nebraska Offline	he's the first dog i've ever attempted to train for sch, though not the first dog i've ever trained. i am learning new and better training methods every week--it's an adventure! however, as you can see, some of the stuff i'm hearing, i'm not buying into.
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Kristine Velasco wrote 10/17/2006 11:57 AM Re: too bonded? [Re: ann freier ] #115759 - 10/17/2006 11:57 AM
Kristine Velasco Webboard User Reg: 11-27-2005 Posts: 297 Loc: Offline	I hate to say this, but perhaps the dog isn't 'too attached' versus being unable to cope with stress on his own. Sometimes we humans tend to put human characteristics on dogs. I think maybe with the type of GSD you have, just stay put and let him mature. They take a while from what I've heard.
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ann freier wrote 10/17/2006 07:11 PM Re: too bonded? [Re: Kristine Velasco ] #115760 - 10/17/2006 07:11 PM
ann freier Webboard User Reg: 11-20-2005 Posts: 673 Loc: NE Nebraska Offline	well, if his uncle caleb is any indication, i'll just have to be patient another 26 MONTHS!!!! (love ya jenni <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. seriously, i think we'll just go slow, give him some time to mature a little, and as charlie said--we won't be doing much training here over the winter (supposed to snow in Omaha sunday, so that's out <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />. sure appreciate the input/support though. sometimes it feels like i live in the middle of nowhere. oh--I DO!! <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Kristine Velasco wrote 10/17/2006 08:37 PM Re: too bonded? [Re: ann freier ] #115761 - 10/17/2006 08:37 PM
Kristine Velasco Webboard User Reg: 11-27-2005 Posts: 297 Loc: Offline	Yup...I think some people expect too much from puppies. Maybe you can check with your breeder and see at what age the dogs usually 'show' their true selves. My dog turned on pretty late for his lines, but he totally went from a sleeper dog to a monster.
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