I was involved with muzzle work for the first time over the summer and the very first time my dog hit the decoy (Mike Kitchen) i clearly remember thinking "i'm never taking muzzle hits and Mike is nuts" LOL. I don't remember what he was wearing, but i remember the sound of dog smashing into human, if you're gonna take muzzle hits, ya better be in good shape!,
Will Rambeau Moderator Reg: 01-25-2003
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Actually, the major worry that we have when training hardcore dogs in the muzzle without protection equipment is that a very fast dog, confident dog can strike the decoy in the throat area, leading to *big* trouble.
Most skilled decoy's can block/protect their throat region with their forearm, but a powerful strike to the exposed forearm can lead to what's called a "night-stick" fracture ( I was x-rayed in my local ER for this very reason about 18 months ago from one of our Mal's <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> )
Last year we had an infantry guy that swore up and down that without the teeth end of it, the MWD was sort of useless in a confrontation. OH REALLY?!!!..... A 3 minute muzzle exercise later and he got the idea. They have a really nasty little female that I think the sanity verdict is still out on, anyway, she put it to him pretty badly. A week later he was still nursing bruises to the sternum, groin, and thigh. This is the same female that literally bit a chunk of countertop off down at one of the guard shacks, the handler simply told her to tell the sentry "good night", causing that sentry to pull the slide on his M-4 . Apparently he was not too sure as to where her chewing / "good night" discussion was going to end, and was on the other side of the counter. That is one grade A, sinister MALINUT.
If everyone is thinking alike, then someone isn't thinking.
While we're working hard on targeting, left to his own devices my bouvier has a tendency to go *really* high, or down low at the shins. This can make for some pretty painful training.
Still no thoughts on muzzles without the metal support? I think the biggest drawback is the design allows for less ventilation, but that seems to be on ok trade-off if it might save a broken bone for the helper...
Ah the memories Simon. I had a bouvier slide under the sleeve and literally pick me up by the inner thigh, almost the groin. Shook me pretty good, and I laid there for a minute wondering if all my possessions were still attached.
Nice bruise. It was also awhile before I got back into the suit, often opting to just give it over to the younger folks. LOL!
If everyone is thinking alike, then someone isn't thinking.
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