Carolyn White Webboard User Reg: 11-27-2004
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Hi,
I am considering adopting a female GSD (Babsy). She is approximately 18 months old. She is in excellent health. She is an owner surrender (owner diagnosed with terminal cancer.) She was raised with another dog.(The other dog has been adopted.)
Per the rescue organization working with her, she was not given any rules by her owner. He would allow both dogs to play roughly, body slamming and things of that nature.
The rescue is working with her on obedience and walking on a leash.
The rescue did indicate that she is very dominant with other female dogs. When introduced to two other female dogs, one went submissive to Babsy immediately. The other female snarled/growled and would not allow it. Babsy backed off and played nicely for about an hour. Babsy then made her move. Babsy started posturing toward the other female and I guess the other female resisted. Babsy then nipped the other dog who immediately went submissive.
Here are the descriptions of Babsy: Babsy is an energetic and happy girl that gets along well with dogs and cats. Everyday she goes to doggie daycare and gets lots of socialization. She loves to greet people by jumping and needs basic training but she does come when called. She is a very powerful dog and the trainer that evaluated her said that she would make an excellent agility, search and rescue dog or any other activity that would require speed, stamina and focus. Babsy has a working dog temperment but is very affectionate and sweet and needs to be in a family environment.
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Babsy is an energetic and happy girl that gets along well with dogs but absolutely loves cats. She was raised with 10 of them and when a litter of kittens were abandoned behind an alley the owner brought them home and Babsy became their mom and would clean them and sleep with them. She is now in foster care and has been obedience trained and continues to be socialized. 'Come' is her best command and she races to your side. She loves to follow you around the house and bonds very quickly with other dogs. She would really love an animal companion. She goes everywhere with her foster dad and enjoys riding to school each day. Babsy is a very athletic and powerful dog and the trainer that evaluated her said that she would make an excellent agility, search and rescue dog or any other activity that would require speed, stamina and focus. Angie is extremely bright and learns commands and tricks very quickly.
I read some of Ed's articles on dominant dogs. If I do choose to adopt this dog, I will be following his guidelines. My questions are as follows:
1)Is the dog's dominance a result of growing up in an environment without rules?
2) When will I know the dog has accepted my leadership?
3) Will this type of dog always look for an opening to "move up" within the pack?
I intend to pursue agility and schutzhund (if she is suited for it) with her.
I do plan on meeting Babsy in a few weeks, if she is still available.
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005
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As I just said in another post, dog dominance and people dominance aren't really related. A dog who does not tollerate other dogs may never have any issue with the handler.
1 - Could be a genetic trait or lack of socialization around other dogs, not neccesarily a bad thing, I teach my dogs to ignore other dogs rather than to be their buddy. In this case, the dog sounds like she needs some time to establish rank n should be OK with the other dog... it's when the real fight starts that you have to worry, 2 dominant females will duke it out till someone dies, 2 males will fight till one gives up.
2 - You'll know. Everything suddenly gets easier with more enthusiasm for your presence.
3 - With other dogs, most likely. Toward handler, depends on the dog, but unlikely since she lived with a person who imposed little rules on her n it doesn't sound like he's covered in dog bites
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