PeggyBayer Webboard User Reg: 08-14-2006
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I stopped by my vet’s office today to weigh my dog; I noticed they were advertising that they now had the rattlesnake vaccine available. I asked the receptionist about the vaccine and she said “that the vaccine will keep dogs from ‘instantly’ dieing should they be bitten by a rattlesnake”. I was all but dumbfounded; when I found my voice I informed her that dogs don’t ‘instantly’ die when bitten by rattlesnakes. Rubbed me the wrong way that she would use such an outrages scare tactic to get someone to vaccinate his or her animal with this.
Anyone have knowledge of the Red Rock Rattlesnake Vaccine or if vaccinating dogs against poisonous snake bites is a good idea or not?
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I stopped by my vet’s office today to weigh my dog; I noticed they were advertising that they now had the rattlesnake vaccine available. .... Anyone have knowledge of the Red Rock Rattlesnake Vaccine or if vaccinating dogs against poisonous snake bites is a good idea or not? ...
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UC Davis QUOTE: Several other canine vaccines are currently available on the market. These are vaccines for canine coronavirus, Giardia spp., canine adenovirus-1, and rattlesnake envenomation. The reports of the AVMA and the AAHA canine vaccine task force have listed the first three vaccines as not generally recommended, because ‘the diseases are either of little clinical significance or respond readily to treatment’, evidence for efficacy of these vaccines is minimal, and they may ‘produce adverse events with limited benefit’. Currently, information regarding the efficacy of the canine rattlesnake vaccine is insufficient. The UC Davis VMTH does not stock or routinely recommend use of these four vaccines.END at http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/vmth/clientinfo/info/genmed/vaccinproto.html
Mike Armstrong Webboard User Reg: 08-06-2005
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I'm in Southern California and rattlers are fairly common in my neighborhood. I've had 2 in the back yard in the last several years and other neighbors have had them as well. My current GSD met a baby rattler about a year ago. If I hadn't intervened, don't know if she would have been bitten.
I have no knowledge as to whether the vaccine is effective or not. Had I considered the vaccine, I would have researched the hell out of it. Just now Googled Red Rock vaccine and found a few sites, including this one - http://www.dogsadversereactions.com/vaccinesurvivors9.html I don't know if this undated report is accurate, but it's something to pursue.
I opted for snake avoidance training - the fastest $70 I ever spent! The trainer - http://www.patrickcallaghan.com - suggests a yearly "refresher" class. We're coming into snake season about now. I don't really know if the avoidance training is effective either, but I'm hoping I won't have to find out with my dog.
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Peggy: I have heard a lot of very positive things regarding the snake avoidance clinics. If I were you, I would seriously consider this option. Another problem with the vaccination is it is not effective against all types of rattlers. For example, it provides no protection against the Mojave, a type of rattler found in parts of California. If my dog were bitten by a snake I very much doubt if I would be able to identify the type of rattler, after all, it wouldn't stick around for introductions, and many of them really do look alike. Perhaps Mr. Callaghan would be able to suggest someone in your area if he is not doing any clinics near you.
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It sounds like the snake avoidance would be the best option for me, although we usually find a couple of snakes each season they are not rattlesnakes, we have killed water moccasins and some type of vipers over the years.
My boy usually approaches new things with caution, it probable wouldn't take much to convince him that snakes are the worse things in the world :>
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