 Re: Puppy crate problems again
[Re: Mike Morrison ]
#136950 - 04/06/2007 12:50 AM |
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yes, he is fed and watered in the crate. I dont mean the crate to be punishment, but every time I try and let him stay out, he potties on the floor sometimes even right after he goes outside. when he is tired (like right now, he goes in the crate and sleeps quietly, but it is a hassle to get him in the crate, and I eventually wind up picking him up and setting him in it, and quickly closing the door befroe he tries to get his nose in the corner of the door to try and nudge out. and he refuses to eat the treats I put in the crate. Granted, today I DID try and have a little mercy on him (all the problems started today) and today I did not make him eat in his crate. Could that be the problem?
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Re: Puppy crate problems again
[Re: Jonathan Hensley ]
#136957 - 04/06/2007 01:27 AM |
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Is he doing better with being in the crate than he was in your first post above? If so, then he's progressed and needs more time. He's only 9 weeks old.
Make sure he's getting enough play time out of the crate and enough potty time outside.
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Re: Puppy crate problems again
[Re: Mike Morrison ]
#136963 - 04/06/2007 03:37 AM |
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just an inquiry - I am NOT right now planning on doing this. But I just read on a website that opposed to months potty training dogs, that if u see them do it in the house and throw something BIG and LOUD to scare them into stopping peeing, and then rub their noses in it that they will learn in between 2 days and 2 weeks. Is that true? ANd would they remember that since they are just puppies (babies dont remember anything that happens to them, thats why I am asking).
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Re: Puppy crate problems again
[Re: Sandy Moore ]
#136964 - 04/06/2007 03:43 AM |
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I'd continue giving him the food in the crate. Don't give up on that yet. This is a battle of the wills for sure. As far as going to the bathroom right after you bring him back in: try a warm washcloth down on his belly then watchout. You can try taking him to the place where you know a dog has gone before. The puppy has a muscle that is stimulated by the mother licking it to make the pup go, hence the purpose for the warm washcloth. Later the muscle is released when the dog smells that odor of urine (like on a tree or post). I'll pray for patience for you. Consistency is the name of the game. Try not being to anxious about the whole thing also because the dog can feel that and possibly make him a little uptight which is not conducive towards achieving your ends.
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Re: Puppy crate problems again
[Re: Jonathan Hensley ]
#136967 - 04/06/2007 04:30 AM |
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just an inquiry - I am NOT right now planning on doing this. But I just read on a website that opposed to months potty training dogs, that if u see them do it in the house and throw something BIG and LOUD to scare them into stopping peeing, and then rub their noses in it that they will learn in between 2 days and 2 weeks. Is that true? ANd would they remember that since they are just puppies (babies dont remember anything that happens to them, thats why I am asking). What you read on that site is wrong. DO NOT rub your pup's nose in his potty. DO NOT throw something big and loud to scare them. Why don't you stick to the Leerburg articles that Ed Frawley wrote? He's got tons of free advice on training and raising puppies. http://www.leerburg.com/puppytraining.htm
AND Ed knows what he's doing. Again, your puppy is 9 WEEKS old. It will not take months to potty train him...that's bull (what jerk came up with that??). Do it the right way or risk creating an anxious, fearful, shy pup. They WILL remember, and it will shape who they grow up to be.
Sidenote: human babies may not remember consciously what happened to them, but it will shape them. Babyhood and puppyhood are incredibly important times and not to be taken lightly.
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Re: Puppy crate problems again
[Re: Sandy Moore ]
#137034 - 04/06/2007 01:36 PM |
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again, Jonathon, it sounds like a battle of wills as far as the crate goes...
the peeing on the floor almost sounds like the same thing, too...or maybe when your puppy gets out of the crate it feels like it's being released and goes on the floor because now it doesn't have to hold it as it's suppossed to do while inside the crate...
again, you have to get the urine smell off of the floor completely...chlorox wipes have done well for us. Brenna had a couple of accidents when we first got her, but she hasn't had one in months now except for her recent bought with diarrhea.
don't rub its' nose in it...I know that that was what passed for good training years ago, but it doesn't work and won't get you any closer to what you want from your puppy.
what kind of puppy did you say it was? a beagle, right?
 Brenna
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Re: Puppy crate problems again
[Re: Jonathan Hensley ]
#137039 - 04/06/2007 01:56 PM |
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I followed Ed's advice to the tee. In the three week's I've had Mojo he's had a few pee accidents, maybe 8 or so and not once a poop accident, or any accidents in the crate. I got into a routine of taking him out often, like every 2 hours min, plus morning wake up, after meals. The few times he did pee it was my fault for messing up the routine. I have caught him a few times beginning to pee and just yelled HEY! He stopped instantly and I calmly walked over to him and said outside and lead him to the door to go outside. He finished his business and I praised him like crazy for going outside. I also clean up the mess right after we return from outside and I don't let him near me while I clean it. I use the Woollight pet product after I soak up the pee as a deotorizer. It's working so well I can't believe it. He just turned 13 weeks and I'm a proud daddy! 
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Re: Puppy crate problems again
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#137049 - 04/06/2007 03:19 PM |
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ok. Thanks for the advise. I just want to pass on any questionable advise I get, to the members of this board, as I can rely on you guys for good, honest andswers.
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Re: Puppy crate problems again
[Re: Jonathan Hensley ]
#137140 - 04/07/2007 08:47 AM |
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Konichiwa's crate was exactly big enough for him to lay in, and no bigger. I got him a new crate that will fit 2 of him, and he will actually go in and go to bed now  YAY! Now for another question lol. He is going through his fear stage and I slid his food bowl towards him and he FREAKED at the scraping noise it made as it went acrossed the floor. I know at the fear stage that anything that scares him could have lifelong implications. he is scared of his food bowl now. Should I just let him deal with it on his own? I am thinking hunger would almost have to overcome any fear of the "scary" food bowl, right?
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 Re: Puppy crate problems again
[Re: Jonathan Hensley ]
#137244 - 04/08/2007 07:21 AM |
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That's too funny. Because about a month ago my pup started "dragging his feet" to avoid going into his crate at night time. After the 3rd night in a row of this behaviour, I upsized him to his bigger crate and have had no more issues with him going to bed. All is back to normal. :-)
He has his smaller (MEDIUMS) crates in my vehicle and the kitchen and he goes in and out of them fine on his own, and under command with his tempting liver treats. Of course, his bedtime crating is treat free.
Glad I'm not the only person that has a pup that likes his space nor the only one that gave it to him. Cheers!
Louanne
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