Jenni - if elbows are just as important as the hips, why isn't that standard in contracts as well? I would also like to understand why you had bite in your contract? Are we talking about how the teeth line up?
Well, I don't know why people don't put elbows in their contract, except that they're hoping it's one less thing to go wrong, and therefore one less thing they have to stand behind. I guess I have to clarify: my contract said that the dog is guaranteed to be OFA certified at 'good' or better (rare-I think most say 'fair'). The films must be sent in; a vet's eval alone doesn't constitute grounds for a replacement, for both the breeder's protection and yours.
Yes, bite refers to how the teeth line up. I think the exact language is "correct scissors bite" in my contract. Also, all teeth coming in is guaranteed.
As for my ribbing you about how many questions you asked, get over it! You knew I was joking <we really need a new rolling eyes emoticon!> Let's not sic the sympathy crew on me just yet.
With the internet, one doesn't know how to take the tone of responses. Sometimes I wonder if I should go into hiding after asking questions. lol. Maybe it's a good thing you didn't meet me in June.
Why is the scissors bite so important if one is not breeding or showing? Is that because you feed Caleb raw?
It's not that a scissors bite is "so important"-it's just that it's supposed to be that way, and my particular breeder guarantees that it is that way, or she'll compensate for it. If you pay for full registration, you SHOULD (theoretically) be able to breed it or show it...so she guarantees it. Doesn't make a difference that I don't show him and probably won't breed him. Know what I mean?
The scissor bite is important as an overbite or underbite could affect a dog's ability to properly eat and if doing bitework, can affect a dog's ability to bite. While this article discusses orthodontics, it shows what can go wrong:
As for elbows, I think that as time progresses, more and more people will be testing elbows. I can only speak for my breed (ACD) and I have seen more people now testing elbows which is good because OFA states that for my breed they find 14% of the hips abnormal and 11% of the elbows abnormal - not much difference there. I know that we are beginning to see a problem in the breed in elbows now that more are testing.
My male was the 2226th ACD to get an OFA hip # but only the 418th ACD to get an OFA elbow number. Hopefully that elbow number will rise expotentially in the future.
Meeting you in June would have been awesome honestly. I enjoy meeting people that I have met online. My trip started out badly and continued to go downhill as the days went by. The rain didn't help either. lol. In fact this whole summer was a downer, but that's another story.
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