Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
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Kelly, I heard at a nutrition seminar that the poisoning from the apple-pip toxicity was usually related to dogs who had access to a lot of fallen fruit, and pigged out (as opposed to one core stolen from the trash).
Pear pips, the kernels of plums, peaches and apricots ... these are all similarly cyanogenic. (Often dogs will refuse the stones in stone fruits, of course, but the cores of pears and apples are much more likely to be devoured.)
Is there a way to separate the dogs from the area of fallen fruits?
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I should add that a pregnant bitch is maybe also at-risk because of the incidence of spontaneous abortion among other species after eating the pips of these fruits. I don't know for sure that dogs are similarly at risk for spontaneous abortion, but it seems possible. Maybe probable.
The dogs aren't normally over where the tree is at unless we are over there picking the apples or mowing the lawn. They have never "pigged out" on the apples, they just chew on them like they are a new type of ball and usually leave the core.
However when they steal from the horses it is a "treasure" so they devour the whole apple (to get rid of the evidence I think). I never give the horses more than one apple each (and I only have 2 horses) so they can't get a whole lot that way.
Maybe I will just adjust their inground fence to keep them away from the tree and cut and core the apples I give to the horses. That should keep the muttlings safe.
Thanks though, it is amazing what we give to our critters without knowing it can hurt them.
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Connie,
I have a question....What about walnuts (off the tree not processed)
We have walnut trees in our yard and there is one in one of the day runs for the dogs.
They do not eat them or really chew on them but they do pick them up and want us to throw them.
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Quote: Carol Boche
Connie,
I have a question....What about walnuts (off the tree not processed)
We have walnut trees in our yard and there is one in one of the day runs for the dogs.
They do not eat them or really chew on them but they do pick them up and want us to throw them.
I've read about macadamia nut toxicity, but not walnuts. I'll look around.
I aksed my vet about the apple thing as I have both apple and wild plum trees in the dog yard. He said it was not a problem unless the dogs consumed huge amounts of apples. The pips seem to be pretty resistant to dog digestion and pass thur anyways (I umm - checked....) The stones of the plums pass thru unscathed, also. None of the dogs seem to eat any of them in excess.
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I aksed my vet about the apple thing as I have both apple and wild plum trees in the dog yard. He said it was not a problem unless the dogs consumed huge amounts of apples. The pips seem to be pretty resistant to dog digestion and pass thur anyways (I umm - checked....) The stones of the plums pass thru unscathed, also. None of the dogs seem to eat any of them in excess.
Yeah. That was what they told us at the nutrition seminar -- not to let them go nuts on a windfall.
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