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#15104 - 11/23/2004 09:51 PM |
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I've been feeding my dogs raw since august. Doing great, they light candles at my shrine every feeding time, but one of my dogs has a slight problem. Lately, she will throw up her just eaten RMB meal (not the ground MM meal, that stays down), and then eat it.
There has been no radical change in the diet lately, all the food is what was previously tolerated. Stool fine, everything else ok. This dog also is quite picky, and was one of the big reasons I switched, I got tired of watching her starve herself on kibble.
I have started giving her enzymes, but it doesn't make a difference if she is puking 1-3 min. after she eats.
Any suggestions? Cleaning up raw dog barf is just getting OLD, esp. when she decides to puke on the rug, instead of the nice clean floor! :rolleyes:
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#15105 - 11/23/2004 10:00 PM |
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When you feed the RMB's are they cold? A dog can throw up if the RMB's are fed cold....it is better to feed the RMB's at room temp.
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#15106 - 11/23/2004 10:37 PM |
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Nope, all of the bones are warmed up in warm water before serving.
She does manage to keep it all down after she pukes, but it is making her understandably leery about bones. If I have to grind, I will do it, but her teeth are so clean now that I hate to lose that benefit of the diet.
I will swing her to the vet, just to make sure that there is nothing else wrong, but I doubt it. And my vet has been very honest with me, that she knows very little about the diet, and that people on the forums probably have more knowledge than she does.
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#15107 - 11/23/2004 10:55 PM |
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If she eats it after throwing it up,and then keeps it down, what's the problem. Just keep her in a crate till she finishes it the second time. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
With grinding, you wont loose all the teeth cleaning benifits. The natural enzimes of the raw diet also help clean the teeth.
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#15108 - 11/23/2004 11:43 PM |
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Part of the problem is that she will eventually refuse to eat her thrown up food. She is very fastidious, and tonight, even after encouragment to finish up, she refused.
Is she throwing up the food because her stomach cannot digest the bones? But why would this start after 3 months of the diet? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Actually, she did throw up occasionally before, but never 4x a week!
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#15109 - 11/24/2004 09:26 AM |
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I tried raw and my dog started throwing up several times a day. It got really bad and so I took her to the vet. I had posted wondering if dogs can get salmonella (sp?) and couldn't get a clear answer, everyone had their own different answer <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> . Well I found out from the vet that dogs can get salmonella and other things from raw, but not the same strains that we get. We put her on antibiotics and reglan and she was fine. I'm not saying that this is what is going on with yours, but we know that it happened with ours. We started out raw, then switched to cooked, but due to the time frame traced it back to when we were feeding raw. I followed VanCamp's advice on my thread and I'm glad I did.
Here is a simple answer. . .
Go. . .to. . .the. . .vet.
I don't like to see a dog vomit more than a few times in a row. . .especially not over a few days period.
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#15110 - 11/24/2004 11:39 AM |
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Yeah, we are going to take her to the vet, but honestly, I don't think it is a bacterial problem. She is not vomiting several times a day, only specific meals. It is more like a regurgitation, not a true vomiting.
It is most likely a mechanical issue; now that I think about it, I just increased her ration in the last month. I don't think there is an obstruction either, because of the selective regurgitation, and the fact that she is able to keep it down the second time.
Gonna grind, and I hope that will solve the problem.
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#15111 - 11/24/2004 01:03 PM |
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Typically, dogs puke raw because of food temperature or illness, since you have covered those two areas I going to guess that you are cutting the bones too small. She is probably wolfing them down before she should. If you are cutting up the bones, I would avoid it. Let the dog have the whole bone and have her work it down to edible size. You might also try feeding whole chicken necks and backs to see if she pukes those up. If she does not then it may just be a bone size issue.
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