Hi Guys,
Just wondering what your preference is, and how you train and handle the dog on the street, after your dog has alerted to a find, lets say on a traffic stop. Do you let the dog into the interior of the vehicle to try and pinpoint the source, or do you put him away and attempt to locate the odor yourself?
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Michael West Webboard User Reg: 05-23-2007
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I think it all depends on the situation really. Lets go ahead and remove the people from the vehicle from this situation and say its you, your dog, and the car. Then yes of course i would try and get as close as i could to the source. Now if you are on a highway with a lot of traffic on the side of the road i wouldn't want my dog out for very long.
David C.Frost Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2002
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Generally, we would put the dog back in the vehicle and conduct the search by hand. Of course there are always exceptions, that is the standard method for us. If, after a search, the officers are unable to locate anything, the dog may well be reintroduced.
DFrost
Any behavior that is reinforced is more likely to occur again.
Well,
I live in the republic of NM and the difference would start with the legal consideration of is this done as a consent search or not?
If not once we have the indication we are done as now we must get a warrant signed. If it is a consent search it would depend on a variety of things such as safety, the kind of vehicle, etc. In our state once contraband is found we are done and need a warrant to continue (yep, it is true).
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Keven,
Even after your dog gives you a positive response you still have to get a warrant? Interesting.. i always thought once you got a positive response that was probable cause so it would be enough.
Thanks Guys,
As it stands now, I place my dog back into the patrol vehicle after a positive alert on a vehicle, and then search the vehicle by hand.
I have a neighboring handler who, after his dog alerts on the exterior sniff of the vehicle, he removes the occupants, if any, and sends the dog inside to search the interior. I like the way he goes about this method.
I was going to start using this in my training, but wanted to see if others were doing it, and how effective it was.
Kevin, that would suck! It is hard to believe, AFTER the dog gave a positive alert on the source, that you would still have to get a search warrant. I guess I am sheltered here in Missouri, where after we get a positive hit, we remove the subjects, and search the vehicle...Guess some of us have it made in that regards.
I would also be interested as to the numbers of search warrants you file for, are actually turned down due to lack of a judge being able to sign,etc.
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David C.Frost Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2002
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That really does suck. We do not have to have consent to run the dog, if the dog responds, we can conduct the search immediately. God Bless the 6th Circuit. In NM under the 9th?
DFrost
Any behavior that is reinforced is more likely to occur again.
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