 Puppy and older dog
#166424 - 12/03/2007 05:44 PM |
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Is there a way to teach an older dog how "correct" a puppy? My 10 wk old Belgian Piranha has decided that she loves to rough-house with my 3 y/o mutt (~50 lbs). When she does this with my adult Mal, the Mal makes a low noise (barely a growl) and the pup understands to cool it. The mutt takes it and takes it, and I am afraid one day he is going to snap. Should I just give up and keep them apart until the pup is older? They are, of course, never together unsupervised.
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#166427 - 12/03/2007 05:57 PM |
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To be honest, I would not be letting any of them interact while the pup is this young. All it is going to take is one time, and you will have a puppy that could very well end up afraid of other dogs which may lead to dog aggression issues.
Also, you, as the pack leader need to be "correcting" the pup. It is really not fair that the pup is allowed to "maul" your other dog. And, Mals are great and they are my favorite, but with your older one, it may be just a matter of time before he/she takes it farther than a low growl and you have serious issues to deal with.
My girl is quick as a snake and can inflict damage in less than a nano second.....(not on other dogs, but if I am not paying attention to a good rowdy game of tug)
Just my two cents......
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#166429 - 12/03/2007 06:01 PM |
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If you are truly concerned that your pup is going to push his limits and get bitten by your older Mal, keep them seperated.
I would limit their contact with each other anyway, personal preference as once I have a pup away from it's mother and litter mates my focus is getting that pup to bond with me, and I limit interaction with other dogs until a solid foundation is built between said pup and I.
Never leave it to your dogs to teach pups or other dogs "lessons" or give them "corrections" it is important that a pup knows it boundaries with play, yes, but that is what mom and littermates did as the pup was growing. Your older Mal should not be in charge of babysitting or teaching your pup  That's what you are there for.
It is great that you do not leave them unsupervised, good for you! Just remember that it is your job to protect your dogs - both of them - from each other, and the world.
~Sorry to be redundant. What Carol said :-D~
Edited by Jennifer Marshal (12/03/2007 06:03 PM)
Edit reason: Carol posted
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#166430 - 12/03/2007 06:06 PM |
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If you are truly concerned that your pup is going to push his limits and get bitten by your older Mal, keep them seperated.
I think she meant that the mutt is going to snap one day, not the Mal.
Either way, it is a recipe for a potential disaster.
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#166432 - 12/03/2007 06:20 PM |
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Thanks for the replies. I know what you are saying is correct, I almost felt silly asking. What seems so amazing to me is the interaction btwn the Mal and the pup--it seems so 'appropriate.' The puppy seems (to me) to be learning normal dog behavior. She doesn't get rough, because she is warned and she listens. But, no, none of it is worth taking a chance on having her hurt.
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#166433 - 12/03/2007 06:20 PM |
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Ah, sorry! I tend to call all my dogs mutts, no matter if they are purebreds or ketchup dogs (heinz 57)
I misread - either way I would keep them seperated until the pup gets older.
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#166446 - 12/03/2007 06:53 PM |
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Kim,
It is not silly question at all. For bonding to you and making sure that the pup becomes familiar with your pack structure, it is just best to keep them separate.
This will help a lot when you start training down the road, since the other risk you run is that the pup becomes "doggy" and decides that the other dogs are more fun than you.
Also, there is some great articles about pack structure and puppies under Ed'd "Articles".
I am going to delve into the new "Establishing Pack Structure for the Family Pet" tonight. Although I have working dogs, this will also help me  immensely, I am sure.
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#166518 - 12/04/2007 07:29 AM |
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I think I have skipped some steps in the pack development area (typical). I will go back and reread some articles and get back on track. The hardest thing is keeping one crated while the other is out! My older dog doesn't get crated unless I'm gone so 'feel bad' (I know I know) if he has to change because of the new addition. I'll get this! Thanks again.
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#166542 - 12/04/2007 10:39 AM |
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I think I have skipped some steps in the pack development area (typical). I will go back and reread some articles and get back on track. The hardest thing is keeping one crated while the other is out! My older dog doesn't get crated unless I'm gone so 'feel bad' (I know I know) if he has to change because of the new addition. I'll get this! Thanks again.
Nah, don't feel bad.
I have dogs in crates in my house and Rock is allowed to be out. Although he stays in his crate more since we had issues a couple weeks ago.
So, if your older dog knows the rules, there is no reason he cannot be out with you.
Good pack leadership is the way to a happy, healthy and respectful pack.
If you can, order the new DVD "Establishing Pack Structure for the Family Pet". From the 45 minutes I watched last night, it is a great investment in the well being of you, your pack and your family members.
I really cannot say more about this DVD and I am itching to watch more.
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