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Connie,

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Also, you mention the full bladder thing..... perhaps she is not getting enough outdoor-potty opportunity.

If so, that is definitely my fault. Common sense.

Yes. If she is outside, she will potty outside. To have an untrained (or not fully trained) dog inside with a full bladder is unintentionally setting her up for a mistake.

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I "up" the opportunities for outside... and limit the chances for inside to just about zero.

Yeah, have done that, but looks like I probably could let her our more frequently. I believe I have heard Ed says this can be bad in one sense because it trains the dog to have to eliminate more often. Finding the balance is key I suppose.

Yes, but not yet. You need to have the dog "get it" first.

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Personally, I almost never correct for indoor potty;

May I ask why?

Because (IME) if the dog in urinating inside, then the dog may either not fully understand the good-outside bad-inside thing, or I am forcing the dog to have an unrelieved full bladder indoors. If I correct a dog who does not "get it" yet, then the dog is getting nothing from that but a handler who surprises her with unfair corrections.

This is not 100%, but it seemed from the posts that in this case, the dog is maybe not outside often enough to form a solid outdoor-potty habit.

When I have house-trained dogs who have never lived inside, or who were forced to live in a kennel in their own waste, the fastest way for me has been to tether the dog to me, take the dog outside very often and throw a party for every good potty, and not allow the opportunity for continuation of the bad habit(s). That's over-simplified, but it's basically what I've found works fastest and in the least frustrating way (for both of us).

The extension of time between potty-runs -- I wait until I am sure that the dog really gets it first.

JMO. I think you will be able to do this with surprising speed when you and the dog are "attached."

Keep us posted. I betcha that with consistency, and starting with upbeat motivational marker training, you will quickly bond better, and she will have steadily-increased confidence.

Do you have Video #302? And the new Pack Structure video?

I understand that she has Come, Sit, and Down, so good going!

Short Basic Ob sessions (upbeat) every day are really good bonding- and confidence-enhancers.