 Re: What should I feed a 9 wk old chihuahua?
[Re: Mike J Schoonbrood ]
#175184 - 01/14/2008 01:00 PM |
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We had a saying in Curacao. "You haven't really lived in Curacao until you've driven over a goat".
So then ... lots of free dog food? 
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Re: What should I feed a 9 wk old chihuahua?
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#175186 - 01/14/2008 01:30 PM |
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I don't have any trouble making the leap. When I was much younger I used to go rabbit hunting with some friends who would "field dress" the bunnies. This involves no knives, and is an interesting, if gross, process if you have never seen it done, including removing the heads. I won't go into details on how to do it....unless anyone wants to know  .
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Re: What should I feed a 9 wk old chihuahua?
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#175193 - 01/14/2008 02:11 PM |
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Many rodent breeders that do large amounts build a gas chamber using a co2 tank or dry ice. Its a much less violent way to dispatch the guys.
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Re: What should I feed a 9 wk old chihuahua?
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#175204 - 01/14/2008 02:53 PM |
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I've fed gerbils recently. I know this is hard for some people to take and it took me awhile to actually go through with it, I admit. But I had a surplus of gerbils with no homes and a need for fresh meat and so it worked out.
I actually noticed that I have zero worries about my GSD's gulping issues when feeding gerbs. They come already bite-sized.
And I'm the one that offed them. It wasn't fun, but I knew that I was able to do it in a humane way. I also knew everything the gerbils had eaten and lived in so I didn't have any paranoia on that scale.
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Re: What should I feed a 9 wk old chihuahua?
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#175208 - 01/14/2008 03:08 PM |
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I've fed gerbils recently. I know this is hard for some people to take and it took me awhile to actually go through with it, I admit. But I had a surplus of gerbils with no homes and a need for fresh meat and so it worked out.
I actually noticed that I have zero worries about my GSD's gulping issues when feeding gerbs. They come already bite-sized.
And I'm the one that offed them. It wasn't fun, but I knew that I was able to do it in a humane way. I also knew everything the gerbils had eaten and lived in so I didn't have any paranoia on that scale.
I say 'Good for you.' This is what we might all experience in order to really connect meat with the prey or slaughter animals. JMO.
But it's not the way of the world these days, and I understand a person who can't do it.
I am ashamed that I don't think I could do it, but relieved that there is someone who sees the big, natural picture, and who will..... because my dogs need that meat.
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Re: What should I feed a 9 wk old chihuahua?
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#175210 - 01/14/2008 03:10 PM |
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Amber, you've just been reported to JSPCG (Jen's Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Gerbils).
How'd ya off 'em? I don't really like killing things in any way that can be screwed up enough that they see it coming. I would never allow a dog to do it him/herself, although I have heard of people doing this. 
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Re: What should I feed a 9 wk old chihuahua?
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#175212 - 01/14/2008 03:15 PM |
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I am ashamed that I don't think I could do it, but relieved that there is someone who sees the big, natural picture, and who will..... because my dogs need that meat. This is why I buy so little from grocers; I think that humanely hunting animals is within the natural order of things...factory farms are not my cup of tea. I get a lot of meat from hunters, and most the rest from small, independent farms who specialize in free-range, humanely-raised animals for both human and pet consumption. Not to say I won't grab some leg quarters from Wal-Mart if I'm desperate, but I try to stick to more "natural" means, and confine my dogs'/cats' food to meat from humanely raised & killed animals.
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Re: What should I feed a 9 wk old chihuahua?
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#175220 - 01/14/2008 03:32 PM |
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How'd ya off 'em? I don't really like killing things in any way that can be screwed up enough that they see it coming. I would never allow a dog to do it him/herself, although I have heard of people doing this.
No, I wouldn't ever let my dogs do it themselves either. That just seems a little more nasty to the little creatures than is necessary and also could potentially harm the dog. Maybe not a gerbil, but I'm sure a rabbit could give a nasty scratch or bite if he wanted to. Plus there's all that fear involved for the animal and I don't want to make any animal afraid if I can help it.
Many rodent breeders that do large amounts build a gas chamber using a co2 tank or dry ice. Its a much less violent way to dispatch the guys.
This is kind of how we did it. My husband's a commercial diver and has an in with the gas guys (who carry lots of kinds) and we can get tanks for very cheap. You don't have to build a big gas chamber...just tupperware, bedding and a hose.
EDIT: This method is so easy that I am now seriously considering raising rabbits. Before this, I was too squeamish to actually kill them in the ways that I have heard described.
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Re: What should I feed a 9 wk old chihuahua?
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#175221 - 01/14/2008 03:34 PM |
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Me too. The natural food store whose butcher counter I use for the dogs' meat actually visit every supplier they carry, and guarantee that every item on a checklist can be checked as "yes." They even flew to Iowa to tour a pork producer's facility because the web site led to questions about whether the pigs were allowed the space and freedom to do natural pig stuff.
I'm lucky, too, because many of the humanely-raised and -slaughtered producers are within a couple hundred miles of me. So the terrible freight costs that would be added on a cross-country run are not an issue.
So I do realize that it's luck for me, and that many or most people would have a much more expensive time of it trying to buy all meat like that.
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Re: What should I feed a 9 wk old chihuahua?
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#175223 - 01/14/2008 03:38 PM |
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This is why farmers do not name their meat animals. It's really and truly is harder to butcher an animal that has a name. You raise a calf for meat, don't notice it's little personality traits or how friendly it is. Seriously. That said, meat that you raise yourself, or that is raised "next door" on the neighboring farm is cleaner, tastier, and much more wholesome than factory farmed animals. Even my dogs can tell the difference between farm beef and store beef. There's no comparison with chickens.
Oh, I forgot where I was going with this, the meat is better, and, if you do kill and butcher yourself, you can be SURE of a humane killing. And you can be SURE the meat you have is the meat you raised, not some other carcass from the meat locker.
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