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I came accross this web page today that I found really fascinating. It seems to make a sort of sense if you think of how all the we have overdone over the years effect our dogs. Should we be rethinking our worming practices along with our feeding and vaccination practices? The human study is fascinationg too. Has anyone heard of this, or had any experience or opinions on this?
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Quote: shody lytle
I came accross this web page today that I found really fascinating. It seems to make a sort of sense if you think of how all the we have overdone over the years effect our dogs. Should we be rethinking our worming practices along with our feeding and vaccination practices? The human study is fascinationg too. Has anyone heard of this, or had any experience or opinions on this?
At the very least, Shody, I'd rather worm only when worms have been diagnosed.
I drop off a fecal once in a while.... not just "worm" once in a while.
So I strongly believe in step one, at least: No worming just as a matter of course, without even knowing if it's indicated.
JMO.
I'll read that more carefully, definitely..... I had not read about the idea that there might be a normal and actually beneficial level of "worminess."
I'll read that more carefully, definitely..... I had not read about the idea that there might be a normal and actually beneficial level of "worminess." VERY interesting! THANK YOU!
Can't remember who exactly, but it may be Pitcairn who addresses this. At any rate (whether it was him or not) the theory is that a healthy dog can manage it's own parasites, and they are not going to take over and kill the animal. I believe it was in reference to the dangers in Heartworm preventative that he brought this up.
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It makes sense if you think about it. Worms/parasites depend on thier hosts for survival. If they made a habit out of killing thier host it wouldn't help them. It would also make sense that over mellenium the relationship may have become somewhat symbiotic, with the host animal getting some benefit from the parasite in repayment for the parasites survival. Interesting no matter how you look at it. I hope they do more studies.
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I never deworm unless a fecal has shown worms in the system - even my horses, I had them tested and didn't just automatically worm them. It was expensive but my vet was a good friend and boarded her horses at the same stable.
I test for worms twice a year, in spring and mid summer. I usually don't have a problem unless the dogs have managed to kill a rabbit or hare etc. I get them tested a few days after that, but I only deworm if they have an infestation. I also test for heartworm every year, but rather than a preventative I just use a mosquito repellent if we get out somewhere with them. Very few mosquitoes here.
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I never deworm unless a fecal has shown worms in the system - even my horses, I had them tested and didn't just automatically worm them. It was expensive but my vet was a good friend and boarded her horses at the same stable.
I test for worms twice a year, in spring and mid summer. I usually don't have a problem unless the dogs have managed to kill a rabbit or hare etc. I get them tested a few days after that, but I only deworm if they have an infestation. I also test for heartworm every year, but rather than a preventative I just use a mosquito repellent if we get out somewhere with them. Very few mosquitoes here.
I totally agree with this aproach. What I thought was interesting was the theory that parasites are not only not as harmful as thought, but could even be beneficial to the host. The Human story is a bout a woman who, under doctor supervision, is DRINKING worm eggs to help her with ulcerative colitis. It has gone into remission since she gave herself worms. They also believe that worming may contibute to auto immune diseases. Quite interesting.
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Yeah - it is very interesting! I prefer my pets to be without worms because an animal with worms sheds them and I would prefer them not be crawling around my house. I have seen cases in horses and in dogs that worms got out of hand but when I had outdoor cats they always had worms no matter what and they lived to 14-17 years old.
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