The fighting out is when the agitator doesn't quit fighting and the dog outs. Not everybody is capable of stoping moving to get the dog to release. So the dog is taught to release even if the Agitator doesn't stop fighting the dog.
As far as lockng in prey, I wouldn't worry about it unless you are working on an agitator in prey only. Working a tug with you is just play for the dog.
If you can't be a Good Example,then You'll just have to Serve as a Horrible Warning. Catherine Aird.
What would you guys say to actually using a sleeve for prey/play instead of a tug? We've also lost our decoy to relocation and basically let the man work fall by the wayside. But recently, since we have to keep one of our dogs on low impact activity and won't let him chase balls, we've been thinking of ways to keep his body and mind active, so we pulled out the sleeve and he loves it. I can't do it for too long because he's a 100lb dog with jaws of steel, but my husband can really get him going with it, he's done a bit of decoy work himself. He's quick with the out, even a fighting out. Is the sleeve OK to use, or could it diminish any future man work if we decided to start it up again? He is definitely focused only on the sleeve right now, but we do not put him in a defensive drive.
Unless I’m reading this thread wrong I think the major misconceptions is that it does not matter what objects or words you use to invoke prey or defense behavior. Prey and defense drive are activated from body posture and stress levels. I can use a tennis ball to put a dog into defense or use a hidden sleeve to have the dog bite in prey.
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