A one ounce serving has 330mg of calcium, and 274mg of phosphorus among a bunch of other nutrients. This is a well known, and frequently used supplement by many.
The makers of the supplement told me that many people are using it for large breed puppies on an RMB diet with no problems. Is this amount of calcium and phosphorus fine, or is it too high for a GSD on an RMB diet?
What are the daily requirements for calcium and phosphorus, and how much is usually contained in RMB's?
Why would you bother with a supplement when RMBs have the perfect natural balance of calcium and phosphorus? If you were really worried add a whole egg with shell every 3-4 days. The shell contains the majority of the minerals in an egg. There are approximately 2,200 mg of calcium and 20 mg of phosphorus in the shell in any info that I've found. Our resident encyclopedia of RAW Connie has told me in this post ..
Dogs need about 900 mg. of calcium per pound of food.
So an egg every 3-4 days shell included wouldn't mess anything up. Egg shell is basically natural Calcium Carbonate. That post that I started last September about the Calcium Carbonate has a wealth of good info about your Calcium/Phosphorus question.
I'm not looking at the supplement for calcium and phosphorus. I'm looking at it for the other vitamins and minerals, it just so happens that there is calcium and phosphorus in it also. If an eggshell has 2200mg of calcium, I don't think the 330mg in this supplement is an issue.
Well you didn't say you were looking at the supplement for anything other than the calcium and phosphorus. That's why I gave the response I did. Why spend money on a supplement when an egg would do the same thing basically.
But I again I'll ask why do you think you need a vitamin supplement though? I feed my dog a chicken carcass/fish mix with vegetables like sweet potato, blueberries and the like with an egg with shell every 3 or so days. The only thing I add is some vegetable oil and in the winter or times of high exercise I'll add salmon oil. If the menu is balanced you really don't need to supplement unless you are missing something in the dog's diet.
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A one ounce serving has 330mg of calcium, and 274mg of phosphorus among a bunch of other nutrients. This is a well known, and frequently used supplement by many.
The makers of the supplement told me that many people are using it for large breed puppies on an RMB diet with no problems. Is this amount of calcium and phosphorus fine, or is it too high for a GSD on an RMB diet?
What are the daily requirements for calcium and phosphorus, and how much is usually contained in RMB's?
IMHO, this is a slippery slope and not in any way necessary for a dog on a balanced diet. RMBs "come with" the correct ratio.
A one ounce serving has 330mg of calcium, and 274mg of phosphorus among a bunch of other nutrients. This is a well known, and frequently used supplement by many.
The makers of the supplement told me that many people are using it for large breed puppies on an RMB diet with no problems. Is this amount of calcium and phosphorus fine, or is it too high for a GSD on an RMB diet?
What are the daily requirements for calcium and phosphorus, and how much is usually contained in RMB's?
IMHO, this is a slippery slope and not in any way necessary for a dog on a balanced diet. RMBs "come with" the correct ratio.
I agree that these are not needed. The supplement is basically dried whole foods, without added "artificial" vitamins. Here's the complete breakdown of what's in it from a nutritional standpoint. The actual ingredients are various veggies and other stuff.
VITAMIN A ------------------2635 IU CALCIUM----------------------330 mg
VITAMIN D----------------------48 IU MAGNESIUM-------------------99 mg
VITAMIN E--------------------.074 IU PHOSPHORUS----------------274 mg
VITAMIN C--------------------100 mg POTASSIUM-------------------422 mg
VITAMIN K--------------------.42 mcg SODIUM-------------------------215 mg
VITAMIN B-1-----------------.224 mg ZINC---------------------------------4 mg
VITAMIN B-2-------------------10 mg COPPER-------------------------1.07 mg
VITAMIN B-6---------------2.333 mg MANGANESE-------------------0.4 mg
VITAMIN B-12----------------114 mg IODINE---------------------------300 mcg
PANTOTHENIC ACID—0.907 mg SULFHUR------------------------248 mg
FOLIC ACID-----------------275 mcg SILICA-----------------------------55 mg
PABA----------------------------25 mg MOLYBDENUM---------------- 40 mcg
CHOLINE---------------------149 mg BORON---------------------------390 mcg
INOSITOL----------------------75 mg SELENIUM-----------------------20 mcg
RUTIN---------------------------50 mg IRON---------------------------------7 mg
BIOTIN------------------------140 mg
It's close but still not the same as RMBs. Egg shell is made up mostly of calcium carbonate and it is not absorbed into the body the same way as the calcium of raw bone.
Depending on the weight of the dog say a dog that is 50bs I wouldn't give more than 2-3 whole eggs in a week. Especially if the dog gets a lot of consumable bone. If the dog over eats on bone it just passes the bone in its stool .. the famous chalk white poop we hear about, the dog's body only uses the calcium it needs.
Eggs in moderation with RMBs are not a worry but it is something that we who feed RAW should be aware of .. especially if someone wants to add extra things again on top of everything else like commercial vitamin/mineral supplements.
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