Mallory Kwiatkowski wrote 06/29/2008 11:38 AM vaccines and training classes/sporting events #200284 - 06/29/2008 11:38 AM
Mallory Kwiatkowski Webboard User Reg: 11-23-2007 Posts: 947 Loc: Cold-ville, Wisconsin. Offline	those of you who don't vaccinate, how do you do training classes and or/events? i have the chance to do flyball with sonny and maya, and neither are current on vaccines(nor will they be).
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Natalya Zahn wrote 06/29/2008 01:01 PM Re: vaccines and training classes/sporting events [Re: Mallory Kwiatkowski ] #200288 - 06/29/2008 01:01 PM
Natalya Zahn Webboard User Reg: 12-22-2006 Posts: 1824 Loc: Cambridge, MA Offline	Mallory, I think each case can be a little different - have you inquired with this specific venue about whether they would accept titer results with a vet's explanation of the results/acceptable ranges? Titers can be pricey, especially if you have to titer for multiple things, but if you can have them done and prove that your dogs are otherwise vetted and very healthy, maybe you'd be able to pass as an exception? Good question though... what are the specific vax that are required for your flyball venue? Technically, rabies is the only one that you LEGALLY must keep updated... at least in my state. ~Natalya
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Mallory Kwiatkowski wrote 06/30/2008 08:16 AM Re: vaccines and training classes/sporting events [Re: Natalya Zahn ] #200350 - 06/30/2008 08:16 AM
Mallory Kwiatkowski Webboard User Reg: 11-23-2007 Posts: 947 Loc: Cold-ville, Wisconsin. Offline	they want: rabies, distemper, parvo, bordatella, same as any kennel or doggy day care here. rabies is the only shot that you must legally have just to have the dog, but if you want to board, do sports, have your dog around other dogs, it must have these other shots too. so that would be titers for each one of these, for more that one dog???? i got lucky with my kennel, i started boarding with them back when all my dogs were current, they have not asked me for anything since. i hate this, because if any person would actually look at a disease, they would see that me having non-vaccinated dogs in their venue would not hurt their other dogs, if anything, my OWN dogs would be at risk. ANY dog, vaccinated or not can be a carrier of an illness, just because all the other dogs have tons of shots doesn't mean their facility is clean..... imo, i should be allowed to have my dogs there if i sign something saying that i know all the risks, etc..... but that won't happen.....
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Connie Sutherland wrote 06/30/2008 09:56 AM Re: vaccines and training classes/sporting events [Re: Mallory Kwiatkowski ] #200355 - 06/30/2008 09:56 AM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	"Current on vaccinations" -- how do they define that? There is certainly no legal definition (except for rabies). Even various vet offices vary widely on their recommended protocols. And so-called boosters are *really* changing, rapidly, from vet to vet. I personally don't know a vet now who still does annual boosters, but a couple of years ago I knew only one who had switched from annual to every-three-years. So what does "current" actually mean?
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leih merigian wrote 06/30/2008 01:45 PM Re: vaccines and training classes/sporting events [Re: Mallory Kwiatkowski ] #200375 - 06/30/2008 01:45 PM
leih merigian Webboard User Reg: 06-16-2008 Posts: 915 Loc: Central Virginia Offline	Mallory, I have only competed in AKC agility and obedience, and NADAC agility, but neither of those venues require proof of vaccination when you are submitting an entry. Some classes I have attended do require proof, and I'm not sure what I'm going to do about that myself with my next dog, which won't be vaccinated except for rabies. leih merigian
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Mallory Kwiatkowski wrote 06/30/2008 06:20 PM Re: vaccines and training classes/sporting events [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #200395 - 06/30/2008 06:20 PM
Mallory Kwiatkowski Webboard User Reg: 11-23-2007 Posts: 947 Loc: Cold-ville, Wisconsin. Offline	most, if not all the vets here do annual boosters. 3 year rabies, everything else yearly. my vet knows me, and knows that i just wont do that, so they don't push it. but for the training club i am looking to join(for their flyball and possible agility classes, the best in the area), their definition of current is yearly shots.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 06/30/2008 06:25 PM Re: vaccines and training classes/sporting events [Re: Mallory Kwiatkowski ] #200397 - 06/30/2008 06:25 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	That's their written requirement? Or does the written requirement say just "current," and verbally they talk about annual boosters?
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Sarah Morris wrote 06/30/2008 06:30 PM Re: vaccines and training classes/sporting events [Re: Mallory Kwiatkowski ] #200398 - 06/30/2008 06:30 PM
Sarah Morris Webboard User Reg: 08-29-2006 Posts: 2324 Loc: Central Coast, California Offline	You may need to look around at other clubs, be prepared to drive a little further, and be a little creative in order to find a like-minded, no vaccine-required-club. If you have holistic vets in your area, call them and see if they know of (or have clients who are members of) training clubs who don't care about vaccinations. If they have a bulletin board in their lobby put up a notice. If you know of raw distributors or co-ops, contact them. I found 2 no-vaccine-required training groups through my raw distributor. It's a long-shot, but you never know... True
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Mallory Kwiatkowski wrote 06/30/2008 06:30 PM Re: vaccines and training classes/sporting events [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #200399 - 06/30/2008 06:30 PM
Mallory Kwiatkowski Webboard User Reg: 11-23-2007 Posts: 947 Loc: Cold-ville, Wisconsin. Offline	oh, their written says "current", but general vet practice says annual, as in, i am piling up postcards saying my dogs are due for their annual boosters. around here, current means annual.....but i guess technically..... and of course, i am that person, the one who lives off of technicalities....lol. i think i wil try for the "don't ask, don't tell".....if they ask if i am current, i will smile and go "yes". if they leave it at that, then i just won't say anything......
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Mallory Kwiatkowski wrote 06/30/2008 06:32 PM Re: vaccines and training classes/sporting events [Re: Sarah Morris ] #200400 - 06/30/2008 06:32 PM
Mallory Kwiatkowski Webboard User Reg: 11-23-2007 Posts: 947 Loc: Cold-ville, Wisconsin. Offline	that's just it, this club is the ONLY club in the area, everyone else is an individual trainer, and i would be on a team, which requires a club.... i have no car, so traveling more than an hour or so away becomes problamatic.... at least for now.
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