While I am not sure about the sitting while on the sleeve, I don't see what it hurts to teach puppies to sit/down in prey drive. If done right, it is a fun way to teach the dog to have a fast sit and down.
As I said, our group does the Balabanov way with The Game from the time they are young pups. The pups have fun and are learning without any real stress. Of course, this comes down, in part, to training ideology, some people do not believe in starting dogs young and there is nothing wrong with that opinion. I just don't cater to it :-)
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On the dvd isnt there a point made about when the dog is ready for focus work? Maybe you havent reached that point yet. The other point is you don't reward her for not sitting and you do reward her as soon as she does sit but you don't try that long focus on the ball like Bernhards dog in the begining.
If the pup has to be forced to sit in drive, then it isn't worth it at this age. Wait until it has better focus skills.
Having to correct such a young dog, during prey work, creates a bad association between prey and correction.
Just let the dog enjoy the bitework and the prey, and worry about OB in drive later, once the dog has more focus.
I must have missed the part about correcting in the initial post. What I was discussing (and do) involves no correction unless you consider not getting the toy a correction. Plus, this is not done during bitework but in obedience/play sessions. We must be discussing two seperate things becauase my dogs turn out associating obedience with absolute pleasure. My 7 month old pup loves obedience and has beautiful attention that she voluntarily offers. She has yet to receive a physical correction in her training.
She is just a puppy. Give her some time. With Hans I get his best obedience when he is in drive because he is so focused on getting the toy. But it took some time for him to figure out that obeying the command is the fastest way to get the toy.
Don't give her the toy until she sits. When she does, reward her very quickly. Eventually she is going to sit and get the toy, and after that happens a few times a light will go on in her head and she'll make the connection. But she may need to grow up a little before "eventually" gets here
Keep taking baby steps, don't expect too much from a young pup.
They have the rest of their lives to learn all the things we want them to- we only have a short time to enjoy them as cuddly puppies.
You've got plenty of time to work with the dog- you can't start trialing until 12-18 months anyway. Plenty of time.
It's better to take too much time building a foundation, than rush it.
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