Jeffrey Smith Webboard User Reg: 10-13-2008
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notice they say the show judge started to say "working" German shepherds are worse suited to the jobs they perform, and then sorta caught him self and rephrased it?!?!lol i would take that working gsd any day of the week. he's looks amazing(in my opinion).
Melissa Thom Webboard User Reg: 12-04-2007
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Funny that this came up. This documentry seems to have created some pressure on the Kennel Club and last week they began the first alterations of standards to reflect a less extreme for the health of the dogs. The first standard altered was for the Pekenese which now instead of being described as flat faced must have a noticable muzzle and will be severely faulted for resp issues.
They suggested that more changes will be coming, I'm not sure at this point if this is a good thing, bad thing, or just a thing.
Barry Offiler, chairman of the 104-year-old Pekingese Club, accused the club of a panic reaction. “If it’s got a muzzle it won’t be a pekingese, and if we have to breed dogs with a muzzle which breed do we cross with them?” he said. “We are talking about a breed that is popular worldwide. This will prevent us showing dogs abroad and will stop overseas competitors entering Crufts. We all support improved health, but we don’t know what damage the muzzle might give to the breed.”
Is he worried about lost revenue from overseas shows or implying that having a nose will be harmful to the dogs?
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It may take three to five years before the new generation of pekinese will show the pronounced muzzles that were common in the 19th century, when the dogs were favourite companions of the aristocracy.
The genetics are there, they don't need to cross Peks with anything, they just need to stop breeding for ridiculous extremes.
Melissa Thom Webboard User Reg: 12-04-2007
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Like I said, I'm not sure if this is a good thing, bad thing, or just a thing. I like that they are taking notice of the effects of extremes in breeding rather than balance but am unsure if they consulted the breed club to see if this is a goal that they reasonably can pursue with the genetics they've got. I would be shocked if this is something they can only do by crossbreeding but a standard will only matter if people are willing to pursue it.
I've seen this take a grip in my own breed's show dogs as well as bones get lighter to the point of a dog's bones being breakable jumping off of a chair, couch, or even in one case I know of down a stair, frames get dwarfish from an average of 10-11" down to 6-9", and hair gets to the length which only can happen if a dog never sets foot on the ground but rather lives it's life in a rabbit hutch. To look at historical pictures of the breed it breaks my heart to see how neurotic they have become for the pursuit of curtain fringe, perfect spots, and tiny bones. God help you though if you bring this up with any of the "pillars" of the breed club community.
It takes a strong backbone to be willing to call your baby ugly. It takes an even stronger will to say this dog will win in the show ring but is unfit for my breeding program therefore a pet and finally absolute courage to break from the standard and the show ring because the breed being represented there is wrong, unhealthy, and a poor example of the breed's purpose and be willing to say this aloud.
I'm continuing to watch this develop with interest even though it's just across the pond.
It takes a strong backbone to be willing to call your baby ugly. It takes an even stronger will to say this dog will win in the show ring but is unfit for my breeding program therefore a pet and finally absolute courage to break from the standard and the show ring because the breed being represented there is wrong, unhealthy, and a poor example of the breed's purpose and be willing to say this aloud.
I know I've offended some by calling some GSD's(that are supposedly bred for beauty) ugly, but when they are breeding to extremes, and the dog can't stand properly, and sorry, but IS ugly, why do people take it personally? It's not like we gave birth to them, and if you really love the breed, for crying out loud call a spade a spade and work to fix it!
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