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#224390 - 01/20/2009 02:20 PM |
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Jennifer, I will need your address so I can send the SPCA.
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Re: Do you see what I see?
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#224391 - 01/20/2009 02:22 PM |
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It is sometimes hard to see in photos or on video. I like to see a hint of rib on my dogs.
I feed Rush a lot, but on days that we snowshoe an extra couple miles or on days that we go to training I can almost watch him burn off the weight. Even when he's ribby, he looks fit and healthy. I admit I don't like seeing hip bones and vertebra sticking up. If I see a dog that consistently looks that way, I question the quality & quantity of nutrition the dog is getting and the digestive health of the dog.
Some dogs need to be "protected from themselves".. In other words, they need forced rest to maintain a healthy weight. I have a lot of questions about that too! Is it the feeding regime for that particular dog, is it unhealthy? or does it just have a very active temperament (bordering on hyperactivity)?
Many times I believe the environment the dog is in will play a huge role. Sniffing out mold can't be all that healthy? Can it?
Edited by Cindy Easton Rhodes (01/20/2009 02:24 PM)
Edit reason: spelling error
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Re: Do you see what I see?
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#224392 - 01/20/2009 02:23 PM |
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Edit-Actually, you can see the hips/pelvic bones in the picture. Yes, the dog is skinny. If it were my dog, I'd add 5 lbs. If you keep a dog thin, it has little to no room for any weight loss due to stress, weather or activity changes, heat cycles, etc. I hesitate to throw stones when I don't know the situation, b/c my dogs have looked like that a time or two.
The hip appearance in that pic was nothing compared to what you could see on the video aired last night (wish I could find it).
The dogs hips were jutting up a good inch above it's back, and it literally looked like skin pulled tight over bone.
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Re: Do you see what I see?
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#224393 - 01/20/2009 02:24 PM |
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Jennifer, I will need your address so I can send the SPCA.
Heyyyyy!!!!
Actually, you should see him now. The chicken backs we get from the butcher that I found towards the end of the year are HUGE....even with him running regularly he put on weight! They were so much bigger than the ones we got from the grocery store. He and Teagan are both on diets now to lose just a couple of lbs, but since they run, especially since she's got HD, they're just a touch too big (oops).
(Of course, by most people's standards, they're not overweight, but I really try to pay attention to that, I like a couple of ribs)
ETA: Alyssa, hips an inch above the back seem a bit extreme to me as well. Since Mals strike me as a skinny breed anyways, maybe if it was working heavily post-flood (don't have sound, I'm assuming) that could happen, but that's definitely too skinny to me as well.
Teagan!
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#224396 - 01/20/2009 02:29 PM |
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Many times I believe the environment the dog is in will play a huge role. Sniffing out mold can't be all that healthy? Can it? I wondered that, too. Can't be so great. Depends on the mold, of course.
I know what you mean about almost being able to see the weight fall off. Caleb is like this. If I don't overfeed (and by overfeed I mean OVERFEED) him for just a few days, he's back to skinny. Now, people still comment on how great he looks when he's skinny, although they do remark that he's thin. I have had a full health profile done on this dog to eliminate any issues causing his ridiculous metabolism, and he's fine.
I think so much depends on the overall appearance of the dog whether it looks skinny or malnourished. Caleb's coat is glossy and thick, his eyes clear and bright, free of any discharge, ears clean, has boundless energy (um, could be why he's skinny!  ) and good muscle tone. I have seen dogs who were not as ribby, but they looked like crap.
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Re: Do you see what I see?
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#224400 - 01/20/2009 02:36 PM |
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Many times I believe the environment the dog is in will play a huge role. Sniffing out mold can't be all that healthy? Can it? I wondered that, too. Can't be so great. Depends on the mold, of course.
I know what you mean about almost being able to see the weight fall off. Caleb is like this. If I don't overfeed him for just a few days, he's back to skinny. Now, people still comment on how great he looks when he's skinny. I think so much depends on the overall appearance of the dog whether it looks skinny or malnourished. Caleb's coat is glossy and thick, his eyes clear and bright, free of any discharge, ears clean, has boundless energy (um, could be why he's skinny! ) and good muscle tone. I have seen dogs who were not as ribby, but they looked like crap.
I agree, a "healthy" thin dog that is a bit skinny with a bright eye, shiny coat and great muscle is a different story than a dog that looks like a starvation victim. I've seen dogs at seminars and training events that I would consider painfully thin. seeing a rib or two is one thing, seeing the whole spine and hip bones is another. Owning very active Malinois, I'm the last person to judge when I see a thin dog but I've seen a few that made me actually feel uncomfortable, they were so skinny. I felt bad for the dog because I don't know how they are expected to work at all when they look like concentration camp victims.
the article about the dog in question says she can identify 20 types of TOXIC mold. It only makes sense to me that if it's toxic to us, then a dog sticking it's nose somewhere and breathing it in on purpose can't be so good.
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#224403 - 01/20/2009 02:40 PM |
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Re: Do you see what I see?
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I, too, am the last to judge, but I look at the whole animal in front of me- not just its weight.
same here 
gotta run, we did 3 sessions of bitework this morning... I better feed Rush LOL
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