I have been working with my 13 week old fem dobie using markers. Up to this point, I have charged the mark with "Yes". I would like to also get into using the clicker as well. I can only assume that charging the mark with both the clicker and the "YES" command can be done. Are there any disadvantages to this? Any particular methods to use, to make sure there is no mis comunication?
I would like to have the option to use the availability of, "Yes", but also have the precision of the clicker.
I use both and havent noticed a problem. I use the clicker for things that involve an object like the dumbell or tracking articles and yes for everything else. This wasnt any grand plan I had, just the way I do it. If there is any possible conflicts or confusion this could cause, I don't know about it.
Hey Jeff, another thing I do is use a different word for a verbal correction. Instead of No I say wrong and change my expression to kind of a dissapointment. Nothing harsh and then he stays excited and drivey.
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or you can say "nope".
Connie told me that little trick.
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(and I use "nope" because when I saw Ed use "nope" in the video, I also saw that I just naturally have a calmer, more upbeat voice for "nope" than for "no").
LOL, "Yes" I have now started working with both yes and the clicker. She already recognizes Yes as a mark, so I spent around 15 minutes just charging the clicker. Then after a break I worked with her charging Yes for two behaviors then alternated and used the clicker. My goal here was to show her that both, "Yes" and th "click" are the same thing.
Then a day later continued the work. I have noticed that her reaction to the clicker is very sharp, just a hair sharper than if, "Yes" is used. I can understand why the click, which is a much more mechanical and well defined sound might be easier for a dog to relate to. Although, I have found that certain times, the Click isn't as versatile as the verbal mark in some situations, such as recall work when the dog may be a bit too far to hear the click amongst all the background noise...
Thanks again... And what a pleasure to have this forum available to a learning handler.
One last question... Sorry for my ignorance.. But, would it be too confusing if I used both, "Yes" and the click at the same time? Thus enforcing that they are both the mark? Or would one or the other get lost in the human voice noise?
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One last question... Sorry for my ignorance.. But, would it be too confusing if I used both, "Yes" and the click at the same time? Thus enforcing that they are both the mark? Or would one or the other get lost in the human voice noise?
JB
Heck no, I would not load a click-yes marker!
That teaches that "click-yes" is your marker! Is that what you want your marker to be? LOL
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