Hello all, I have been going crazy trying to get my pup to "OUT" with treats (all types) or corections, her drive is so focused on the item whatever it is ie. ball or tug. I have tried a toy or using something that might not be as desireable as read here in the forum but no luck once her drive (I think) gets up I have no luck. I have tried ending the session, and trying again later. Still the same, can any body give me some help on this matter or am I doing something wrong.
It's great she has that kind of drive! I try not to use corrections to get a dog to out, but I don't want food distractions to make a dog out, either. I want my dog to want to tug even more than she wants food.
One way to first introduce "out" with a puppy is by letting her have the object, then grab a new object, run with it and say "out" right as she lets go. Then in her mind "out" is not a negative thing, but means "let go and you get a new toy" that is alive and moving.
Try this: while tugging, hold your tug stiff in your arm, then tell your dog "sit" (or down). Because it's right above her head, in order to sit, she must out. She may sit right away, and sitting requires her to let go. Or (I don't know how far along her obedience is) you may have to gently place her by tucking her butt under. Then the next step, when her obedience is solid, if you DO have to correct, you are correcting over the "sit" or "down", NOT the "out". You will say "Dog's Name, Out, Sit." As soon as she sits, pause still for a second, praise, then immediately initiate the game again.
Always make it fun for her to interact with you and ideally you want her bringing it to you for the "fight", and not thinking she will get it taken away, she should win the majority of the time to build drive.
Never get into a fight with her; i.e. do not pull on the toy.
In the beginning command a down and then the out. Keep your hands off the toy. I know from some people that they throw a handful of yummy treats on the floor. When she outs the toy let her grab again. I do marker training and with sayiing Yes the dog is free to start the game again. When you end the session always put your toy calmly away.
As Jennifer wrote I let my dogs win the "fight' most of the time.
My male had a major issue with out (thanks to some stupid decoy). No matter the reason we had to work on it and solved it. It took a while and now he knows it's not terrible outing a toy. To this day I reward both dogs when we're done playing with a yummy treat. It's the end of our training session, the toy goes away, and my thank you for their great work :-)
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