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Re: Stay command
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#21258 - 07/29/2002 12:24 AM |
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Chris,
This is the way I work: If it's a short term thing, I'll use the specific sit or down command, and expect him to hold that. But if I'm going to be a while, I'm not real anal about what exact position (sit, down, standing on head) my dog is in, as long as he does not move from that spot. That's when I use a "Stay".
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Re: Stay command
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#21259 - 07/29/2002 01:06 AM |
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LSWANSTON, But if I'm going to be a while, I'm not real anal about what exact position (sit, down, standing on head) my dog is in, as long as he does not move from that spot. That's when I use a "Stay".
That's how I use the stay also, I don't rhink it puts as much pressure on the dog for no needed reason. (lets them relax)
My question is what to do with a pup going to be trained for schutzhund?
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Re: Stay command
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#21260 - 07/29/2002 01:47 AM |
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I don't know. I'm pretty ignorant about SchH, but I would imagine that SchH might have slightly different requirements than PSD.
For SAR, while obedience is not the focus, there are requirements for certain basic commands for certification, such as the sit, down, heel, stay, and recall, and the dog must be responsive to handlers other than their own in following these commands. We're not looking for precision, but rather, responsiveness and reliability. I think that, with the exception of having specific requirements for certification, Chris is probably in the same boat......except for the being responsive to other handlers part. That, I'm not sure about.
I get the impression that in SchH, there isn't a stay. The dog automatically stays put until the next command is issued. Is that the case, or do I have the wrong impression?
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Re: Stay command
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#21262 - 07/29/2002 09:37 AM |
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Originally posted by oldearthdog:
Butch
The stay command, as a second command, is required in AKC Obd. It's not required; it's just the norm. For long sits and downs, when the judge says tell your dog to stay, you can simply say sit or platz or nothing at all, since you have already given the command for that posture, and walk away.
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Re: Stay command
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#21263 - 07/29/2002 12:08 PM |
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Thanks for clarifying. It's been a few years since I competed.
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Re: Stay command
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#21264 - 07/29/2002 12:24 PM |
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Thanks for the answers. It will help me not ruin a young pup.
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Re: Stay command
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#21265 - 07/29/2002 11:11 PM |
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Using the stay command won't ruin your dogs, you will just have to ween them off of it to use only one command.
Just in case anyone out there just got worried. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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#21266 - 07/29/2002 11:40 PM |
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Thanks, started doing that with my GSD. Might as well train myself on older dog.
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#21267 - 07/30/2002 09:32 AM |
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U.S.P.C.A. obedience requirements for a Patrol Dog include both obedience and an agility course. The obedience includes heeling (normal, fast,slow pace) and distance control by voice and handle signal in a random pattern. All of the obedience phase is conducted off-leash. The agility course is also conducted off-leash.
Gotta lot of work to do. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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